Doktrin Taqiya

Dalam Islam, ada doktrin yang bernama Taqiya, yaitu boleh berbohong atas kepentingan Islam.

emulio wrote:Dalam Islam, ada doktrin yang bernama Taqiya, yaitu boleh berbohong atas kepentingan Islam.

Bagaimana cara orang non-muslim bisa mengetahui yang asli dan yang palsu dari Islam bila ada doktrin seperti ini?

emulio wrote:Dalam Islam, ada doktrin yang bernama Taqiya, yaitu boleh berbohong atas kepentingan Islam.

Bagaimana cara orang non-muslim bisa mengetahui yang asli dan yang palsu dari Islam bila ada doktrin seperti ini?

oglikom wrote:

emulio wrote:Dalam Islam, ada doktrin yang bernama Taqiya, yaitu boleh berbohong atas kepentingan Islam.

Bagaimana cara orang non-muslim bisa mengetahui yang asli dan yang palsu dari Islam bila ada doktrin seperti ini?

Jelas semua PALSU.

emulio wrote:

oglikom wrote:

emulio wrote:Dalam Islam, ada doktrin yang bernama Taqiya, yaitu boleh berbohong atas kepentingan Islam.

Bagaimana cara orang non-muslim bisa mengetahui yang asli dan yang palsu dari Islam bila ada doktrin seperti ini?

Jelas semua PALSU.

Beberapa ayat yg mendukung:

Qs 3 [28] : Janganlah orang-orang mu'min mengambil orang-orang kafir menjadi wali dengan meninggalkan orang-orang mu'min. Barang siapa berbuat demikian, niscaya lepaslah ia dari pertolongan Allah, kecuali karena (siasat) memelihara diri dari sesuatu yang ditakuti dari mereka.

Qs 2 [225] : Allah tidak menghukum kamu disebabkan sumpahmu yang tidak dimaksud (untuk bersumpah), tetapi Allah menghukum kamu disebabkan (sumpahmu) yang disengaja (untuk bersumpah) oleh hatimu. Dan Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyantun.

Karena saya bukan dibesarkan di lingkungan muslim, mungkin saya salah tafsir ayat-ayat Al-Quran.

Kalau menurut mas sendiri, doktrin ini seharusnya tidak ada?

frontline defender wrote:sudah dijawab di sini : http://www.laskarislam.com/t2539-tidak-bisa-disebut-bohong-jika-dalam-keadaan-terpaksa

frontline defender wrote:kalau bohongnya untuk tujuan dakwah, ya berarti termasuk bohong yang dilarang!

emulio wrote:

frontline defender wrote:sudah dijawab di sini : http://www.laskarislam.com/t2539-tidak-bisa-disebut-bohong-jika-dalam-keadaan-terpaksa

Thank you buat linknya FD.
Jadi, yang terpenting memang niatnya.

Doktrin Taqiya hanya sebagai panduan saja mana bohong yang 'baik' & 'tidak baik' dan dalam keadaan mana bohong itu bisa bermanfaat.

musicman wrote:@Nasi Goreng

nama ID nasi goreng, itu Taqiya bukan bung?

Elu Ha Ehad wrote:Tetapi jika kebenaran Allah oleh dustaku semakin melimpah bagi kemuliaan-Nya, mengapa aku masih dihakimi lagi sebagai orang berdosa? (Roma: 3 - 7)

oglikom wrote:Paulus tidak pernah berkata seperti yang di catat didalam

Hadist Shahih Bhukari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

"Adalah Allah yang memberikan kepadamu mulut. Oleh Allah dan atas kehendak Allah, jika aku bersumpah dan kemudian menemukan yang lebih baik dari itu, maka aku akan mengubah sumpahku tersebut.

Masya Allah... ini "Nabi" mempraktekan ungkapan "Lidah Tak Bertulang".

isaku wrote:

oglikom wrote:Paulus tidak pernah berkata seperti yang di catat didalam

Hadist Shahih Bhukari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

"Adalah Allah yang memberikan kepadamu mulut. Oleh Allah dan atas kehendak Allah, jika aku bersumpah dan kemudian menemukan yang lebih baik dari itu, maka aku akan mengubah sumpahku tersebut.

Masya Allah... ini "Nabi" mempraktekan ungkapan "Lidah Tak Bertulang".

dodol asal nyembur... tukang plintir...

Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ashari and there were friendly relations between usand this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the peoplethere was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Comeon (and eat), for I have seen Allahs Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eatingsomething (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it Abu said, "Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah s Apostle with a groupof Al-Ashariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked formounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, I have nothing tomount you on In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allahs Apostle and he askedtwice, Where are Al-Ashariyin?" So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for ashort while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, "AllahsApostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allahs Apostle of his oath, we will neverbe successful." So we returned to the Prophet and said, "O Allahs Apostle! We asked you for mounts,but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten youroath. He said, It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oathand later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.

Elu Ha Ehad wrote:kalo gak disunat hukuman mati! dari zaman nabi Ibrahim juga ada ketentuan itu. dan sunat juga ada pada hukum Taurat.
Paulus memutuskan hukum itu! apa itu kebohongan untuk memuliahkan Allah?

oglikom wrote:

isaku wrote:

oglikom wrote:Paulus tidak pernah berkata seperti yang di catat didalam

Hadist Shahih Bhukari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

"Adalah Allah yang memberikan kepadamu mulut. Oleh Allah dan atas kehendak Allah, jika aku bersumpah dan kemudian menemukan yang lebih baik dari itu, maka aku akan mengubah sumpahku tersebut.

Masya Allah... ini "Nabi" mempraktekan ungkapan "Lidah Tak Bertulang".

dodol asal nyembur... tukang plintir...

Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ashari and there were friendly relations between usand this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the peoplethere was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Comeon (and eat), for I have seen Allahs Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eatingsomething (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it Abu said, "Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah s Apostle with a groupof Al-Ashariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked formounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, I have nothing tomount you on In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allahs Apostle and he askedtwice, Where are Al-Ashariyin?" So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for ashort while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, "AllahsApostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allahs Apostle of his oath, we will neverbe successful." So we returned to the Prophet and said, "O Allahs Apostle! We asked you for mounts,but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten youroath. He said, It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oathand later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.

Coba terjemahkan yang di gedhekan itu akan "terbaca" sama seperti ungkapan "lidah tak bertulang".

isaku wrote:

oglikom wrote:

isaku wrote:

oglikom wrote:Paulus tidak pernah berkata seperti yang di catat didalam

Hadist Shahih Bhukari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

"Adalah Allah yang memberikan kepadamu mulut. Oleh Allah dan atas kehendak Allah, jika aku bersumpah dan kemudian menemukan yang lebih baik dari itu, maka aku akan mengubah sumpahku tersebut.

Masya Allah... ini "Nabi" mempraktekan ungkapan "Lidah Tak Bertulang".

dodol asal nyembur... tukang plintir...

Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ashari and there were friendly relations between usand this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the peoplethere was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Comeon (and eat), for I have seen Allahs Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eatingsomething (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it Abu said, "Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah s Apostle with a groupof Al-Ashariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked formounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, I have nothing tomount you on In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allahs Apostle and he askedtwice, Where are Al-Ashariyin?" So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for ashort while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, "AllahsApostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allahs Apostle of his oath, we will neverbe successful." So we returned to the Prophet and said, "O Allahs Apostle! We asked you for mounts,but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten youroath. He said, It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oathand later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.

Coba terjemahkan yang di gedhekan itu akan "terbaca" sama seperti ungkapan "lidah tak bertulang".

ayo aja asal bukan tukang plintir yg terjemahin

oglikom wrote:Paulus tidak pernah berkata seperti yang di catat didalam

Hadist Shahih Bhukari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

"Adalah Allah yang memberikan kepadamu mulut. Oleh Allah dan atas kehendak Allah, jika aku bersumpah dan kemudian menemukan yang lebih baik dari itu, maka aku akan mengubah sumpahku tersebut.

Masya Allah... ini "Nabi" mempraktekan ungkapan "Lidah Tak Bertulang".

frontline defender wrote:
QS. 66:2. Sesungguhnya Allah telah mewajibkan kepadamu sekalian membebaskan diri dari sumpahmu dan Allah adalah Pelindungmu dan Dia Maha Mengetahui lagi Maha Bijaksana.[/i]