Ramayana vs mang odoy: Trinitas meniru paganisme.

SOURCES

Scholarly Books on Egyptian Gods and Egyptian Religion:

The Routledge Dictionary of Egyptian gods and goddesses by George Hart (Routledge, 2005)
Dictionary of Ancient Egypt edited by Toby Wilkinson (Thames & Hudson, 2005)
Gods and Men in Egypt, 3000 BCE to 395 CE by F. Dunand and C. Zivie-Coche (Cornell Univ Press, 2004)
The Complete gods and goddesses of Ancient Egypt by Richard H. Wilkinson (Thames & Hudson, 2003)
Handbook of Egyptian Mythology by Geraldine Pinch (Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO, 2002)
The Ancient Gods Speak: A Guide to Egyptian Religion edited by Donald B. Redford (Oxford Univ Press, 2002)
The Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt edited by Margaret Bunson (Oxford: Facts of File, 1991, 2002 revised)
The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt edited by Donald B. Redford (Oxford University Press, 2001)
The gods of Egypt by Claude Traunecker, trans by David Lorton (Cornell University Press, 2001)
Death and Salvation in Ancient Egypt by Jan Assmann, trans by David Lorton (Cornell Univ Press, 2001)
The Great Goddesses of Egypt by Barbara S. Lesko (Univ of OK Press, 1999)
Gods, Priests, and Men: Studies in the Religion of Pharaonic Egypt by Aylward M. Blackman, compiled/edited by Alan B. Lloyd (Kegan Paul Intl, 1998)
Egyptian Religion by Siegfried Morenz, trans by Ann E. Keep (Cornell Univ Press, 1992, orig 1960)
The Gods and Symbols of Ancient Egypt: an illustrated history by Manfred Lurker, trans by Barbard Cumming (Thames and Hudson, 1980)
Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt by R.T. Rundle Clark (Thames & Hudson, paperback 1978, 1993)
The Ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts in 3 volumes, edited by R.O. Faulkner (Aris and Phillips, 1973, 1978)
The gods of the Egyptians by E. A. Wallis Budge (Dover Publications, 1969), 2 volumes
Non-Scholarly, Pseudo-historical, Unreliable Books on "Pagan Parallel" Conspiracy Theories of Religion:

Bible myths and their parallels in other religions, being a comparison of the Old and New Testament myths and miracles with those of heathen nations of antiquity, considering also their origin and meaning by Thomas William Doane (University Books, 1971, orig 1882)
The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors, or Christianity Before Christ by Kersey Graves (Truth Seeker Company, 1960 sixth edition, also Adventures Unlimited Press, 2001, orig 1875)
The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop (Loizeaux Brothers, 1959, orig 1916)
The Jesus Mysteries: Was the 'Original Jesus' a Pagan God? by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy (Three Rivers Press, 1999)
The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold by Acharya S (Adventures Unlimited Press, 1999)
The Pagan Christ by Tom Harpur (Walker and Company, 2004)
SEE ALSO

From site www.Ancient-Egypt.org by an amateur Egyptologist on "Horus" (framed web page)
From Encyclopedia Mythica on "Horus"
Encyclopedia of Religion edited by Mircea Eliade (1987) / Lindsay Jones (2nd edition 2005) article on "Horus"
From Tektonics.org on "Walk Like An Egyptian": Comparing Osiris, Horus, Jesus
From Ben Witherington's Blog "The Zeitgeist of the 'Zeitgeist' Movie"
"Ending the Myth of Horus" by a blogger "Consigliere" posting on an atheist site (1/10/2005)
"Kersey Graves and the World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by skeptic and historian Richard Carrier (2003)
Richard Carrier on the Egyptian Luxor inscription (2004)
"The Leading Religion Writer in Canada...Does He Know What He's Talking About?" by W. Ward Gasque (8/9/2004)
on Tom Harpur's book The Pagan Christ also here and here
Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World by Gerald Massey (orig London, 1907)
chapter "The Jesus Legend Traced in Egypt for 10,000 Years" (PDF)
The Historical Jesus and Mythical Christ by Gerald Massey (c. 1900)
Also: The Teaching Company on Egyptology, 48 college lectures by Bob Brier of Long Island University, Sample Parts 1,2,3 (MP3)
by PhilVaz -- completed Easter Sunday (March 23) 2008 -- He is Risen!

ramayana wrote:berarti ente mengingkari kalau Isa adalah Yesus? jawab yg tegas mang!! bikin malu aja muter muter hahahahahaha..

mengenai Paus benecdictus.. ente bilang dia bapak gereja? gereja siapa???? ente ga bisa bedakan katholik dan kristen?

ane udah kasih perhitungan natal di desember. silahkan ente kasih perhitungan di bulan lain. bisa? kan diatas ente mau pertahanin yg non desember hahahahaahaha..
apakah natal adalah akidah kristen yg ente koar koarkan?????

mengenai sumber ente.. ente lihat yg ane kasih? ane sebut 1 contohnya. ga usah ane susah susah terjemahin buat ente. buat capek ga ada guna mang..

link ane udah sangat tegas bilang kalau sumber yg ente bawa salah dan terutama adalah.. out of dated!! referensinya tahun 1800 an. padahal tahun 1900 an banyak di temukan bukti bukti baru.

ngapain ane terjemahin dan tanggepin 1 per 1??

kan udah ane bilang.. bawa 1 aja yg paling pagan!! dan mari kita lihat.. kalau yg paling pagan aja gugur, yg lain kan gugur hahahahahaaha..

tuh udah ane bawa 1 diatas. atau ente mau pilih?? monggo!

mang odoy wrote:

ramayana wrote:berarti ente mengingkari kalau Isa adalah Yesus? jawab yg tegas mang!! bikin malu aja muter muter hahahahahaha..

mengenai Paus benecdictus.. ente bilang dia bapak gereja? gereja siapa???? ente ga bisa bedakan katholik dan kristen?

ane udah kasih perhitungan natal di desember. silahkan ente kasih perhitungan di bulan lain. bisa? kan diatas ente mau pertahanin yg non desember hahahahaahaha..
apakah natal adalah akidah kristen yg ente koar koarkan?????

mengenai sumber ente.. ente lihat yg ane kasih? ane sebut 1 contohnya. ga usah ane susah susah terjemahin buat ente. buat capek ga ada guna mang..

link ane udah sangat tegas bilang kalau sumber yg ente bawa salah dan terutama adalah.. out of dated!! referensinya tahun 1800 an. padahal tahun 1900 an banyak di temukan bukti bukti baru.

ngapain ane terjemahin dan tanggepin 1 per 1??

kan udah ane bilang.. bawa 1 aja yg paling pagan!! dan mari kita lihat.. kalau yg paling pagan aja gugur, yg lain kan gugur hahahahahaaha..

tuh udah ane bawa 1 diatas. atau ente mau pilih?? monggo!

kang rama....
maksud saya kaya gini...
saya dah bawa sumber yang jadikan rujukan dalam menunjukkan KEPAGANAN KRISTEN ini...dan saya sudah berusaha untuk menerjemahin...
Nah...anda juga sama....anda bawa sumber untuk MENGHADANG sumber yang saya bawa..

maunya saya ..... silahkan quote pernyataan saya yang saya bawa dari buku yang sudah saya terjemahin...terus....kang rama bantah dengan sumber yang kang rama dapet, dengan syarat anda terjemahin juga..biar para pembaca bisa mengerti alur debat kita di tret ini..

nahh...kalo itu dah berjalan...baru akan meningkat ke level berikutnya....sumber yang saya bawa didebat dengan sumber yang anda bawa...nahh ini kan terus melebar untuk menguji KREDIBILITAS dari masing sumber yang kita bawa di tret ini...itu baru namanya debat..

lhaa ini...???
anda cuman kasih LINK dan COPAS ABIS....tanpa ada penjelasan sama sekali....????
ini kan debat dibaca oleh UMUM...dan bukan cuman kita berdua...

Jadi...kalo anda emang merasa masih sebagai PENANTANG DI TRET ini....silahkan jalankan aturan main diatas..

Selama itu belum anda lakukan....maka saya akan terus memposting hal hal tentang KEPAGANAN KRISTEN dan itu akan terus saya terjemahin..

sekarang terserah kang rama...mau ikutin aturan diatas...atow cuman mau ngomel ngomel kaya nenek nenek..

kemarin koar koar nanyain postingan...saya kan dah bilang...tunggu saatnya tiba....setelah SERANGAN UMUM 1 MARET saya lancarkan....ternyata anda cuman LEMPAR LINK...
Apa anda nyuruh saya nerjemahin link yang anda bawa itu...??? terus disandingkan dengan sumber yagn saya bawa...???? terus...fungsi anda di tret ini sebagai apa...??? apakah masih berstatus sebagai PENANTANG....atow sudah berubah jadi KAMBING CONGEK yang bisanya cuman bisa LEMPAR HANDUK..??

silahkan....
sumber rujukan saya buanyak banget...bukan cuman buku itu....kan saya dah bilang...ini cuman PERMULAAN... baru segini dah mewek mewek...lempar LINK...dan terus koar koar nanyain "mana yang paling pagan".....lhaa semua postingan yang saya bawa dari buku itu emang PALING PAGAN....

ayoo ahhh....kalo emang bener anda ini adalah JAWARA ASLI....dan bukannya JAWARA yang ternyata pake rok mini, bibir pake gincu, dan bawa gitar yang senarnya dari tali karet....

bawa kemari aja 1 yg paling pagan! silahkan ente yg milih. atau ane yg milih?? kita buktikan ente ngawur!! hahahahahaha...

trus trit agama ente yg pagan kok ga lanjut??

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).

ramayana wrote:ga usah banyak cingcong!!

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).

silahkan..

mang odoy wrote:

ramayana wrote:ga usah banyak cingcong!!

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).

silahkan..

nahhh gituu dongg...ini baru namanya debat....walo suguhan yang anda suguhkan diatas adalah cuman MODAL NEKAD...hiks hiks hiks..

Baca lagi yang benar..
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

Many Egyptian gods and goddesses held ―sacred titles‖ of one sort or another. For example, in chapter/spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the deceased addresses Osiris as the ―Lord of Truth,‖ and it is also easy to understand why solar gods would be deemed ―The Light.‖ Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80

Pernyataan tersebut diambil dari buku "The Egyptian Book of the Dead"...
Pengen tau bukunya...??? silahkan gunakan visual apparatus anda dengan benar...buka link yang ini..

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/

THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
The Papyrus of Ani
by
E. A. WALLIS BUDGE
[1895]

Buku tersebut juga akan saya jadikan ACUAN di tret ini..



Kalow anda pengen baca buku "Christ in Egypt - The Horus-Jesus Connection" ...silahkan donlot disini..
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2012/08/04/acharya-s-christ-in-egypt-the-horus-jesus-connection-1/



Nahh...kita balik ke bantahan anda dengan pernyataan yang diambil dari link ini..

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/HORUS.htm

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).
.


Nahh..sekarang giliran anda....untuk mempertanggung jawabkan pernyataan dari link yang anda bawa ke mari..
Dari mana pernyataan tersebut diambil...??? atas dasar apa..??? apa referensinya..???
Silahkan...

Ta bikin MUNTAH BERAK nt di tret ini yaa....!!

THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
The Papyrus of Ani
by
E. A. WALLIS BUDGE
[1895]

ramayana wrote:

mang odoy wrote:

ramayana wrote:ga usah banyak cingcong!!

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).

silahkan..

nahhh gituu dongg...ini baru namanya debat....walo suguhan yang anda suguhkan diatas adalah cuman MODAL NEKAD...hiks hiks hiks..

Baca lagi yang benar..
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

Many Egyptian gods and goddesses held ―sacred titles‖ of one sort or another. For example, in chapter/spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the deceased addresses Osiris as the ―Lord of Truth,‖ and it is also easy to understand why solar gods would be deemed ―The Light.‖ Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80

Pernyataan tersebut diambil dari buku "The Egyptian Book of the Dead"...
Pengen tau bukunya...??? silahkan gunakan visual apparatus anda dengan benar...buka link yang ini..

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/

THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
The Papyrus of Ani
by
E. A. WALLIS BUDGE
[1895]

Buku tersebut juga akan saya jadikan ACUAN di tret ini..



Kalow anda pengen baca buku "Christ in Egypt - The Horus-Jesus Connection" ...silahkan donlot disini..
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2012/08/04/acharya-s-christ-in-egypt-the-horus-jesus-connection-1/



Nahh...kita balik ke bantahan anda dengan pernyataan yang diambil dari link ini..

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/HORUS.htm

Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others

Wrong, no evidence for these names. The "forms" of the Horus-god are precisely what I listed above, under these categories: Horus the Child (healing / magical titles such as "Horus-on-the-Crocodiles"); Horus as son of Isis and Osiris ("pillar of his mother"; "savior of his father"); and Horus as a sun-god ("lord of the sky"; god "of the east"; Horus of / in "the horizon"; and later associated with Re).
.


Nahh..sekarang giliran anda....untuk mempertanggung jawabkan pernyataan dari link yang anda bawa ke mari..
Dari mana pernyataan tersebut diambil...??? atas dasar apa..??? apa referensinya..???
Silahkan...

Ta bikin MUNTAH BERAK nt di tret ini yaa....!!

mang.. ente masih bisa mikir seperti manusia normal??

udah dikatakan diatas, link ente ngawur dan out of date!

contohnya..

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/

THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
The Papyrus of Ani
by
E. A. WALLIS BUDGE
[1895]

== jaman itu informasi belum banyak dan juga yang di temukan belum selengkap tahun 1900 sampai 2000an.

capek ane mang! debat ga mutu ama ane.

ente kalau mau belajar.. bukan hanya apa yg ane kasih ke ente. ente cari sendiri juga baca link ane! kayak monyet aja, ngarep sodoran pisang di wajah.

link ane dari buku yg di terbitkan tahun 2000 an dengan adanya penelitian dan penemuan terbaru dibanding tahun 1800an karya ente hahahahahahahahaha

ane nanya mang.. kita bisa ke bulan ga? kalau ente pakai referensi buku tahun 1950an ya akan bilang ga bisa! tapi kalau ente baca buku tahun 2000 an ya akan bilang bisa!

ga heran kalau ada ayat yang berkata.. Takut akan TUHAN adalah awal dari pengetahuan!!
orang yg beribadah pakai hafalan... disebut sebagai orang orang yang hikmatnya hilang dari mereka. terbukti! hahahahahaha

ente mau adu referensi? tuh, ane kasih puluhan buku terbaru sebagai referensi diatas. ente baca dan cari sendiri!

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:

ramayana wrote:hahahahahaha.. buku itu adalah sumber ente. ane sebut kalau link ente ini sumbernya tahun 1800 an!! ane ga masalahin terjemahan!! ane kasih bukti kalau buku ente bersumber ke buku buku jadul!!

sekali lagi.. ane masalahin sumber jadul dari tulisan ente!!

sumber ente udah ane sebut diatas dari referensi buku buku dimana da perkembangan baru tentang penemuan penemuan arkeologis.

sedang mengenai buku terjemahan papirus ente.. ini ane kutip ya.. pakai nalar!

ini tuduhan ente!

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

dan ini bukti menurut tuduhan ente.

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80

ada yang sama???? dasar jadul! hahahahahaha..

cuman the truth dan light yg mirip hahahahahaha..

tetapi julukan itu di tujukan ke ini..

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:

ga hanya horus. mungkin horus malah ga disebut the truth dan light hahahahahahahahaha..

nalar dipakai!!

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

ramayana wrote:

17. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Anointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others.

jadi.. dasar ente itu yang many other ya.. bukan yang tertulis! tapi yg ga di tulis hahahahahaha..

sekarang ente hanya fokus di the truth dan the light ya? emang dimana ada the truth dan the light di tujukan hanya ke horus??

dan sejak kapan Yesus di katakan.. Yesus the truth. atau Yesus the light. ane kok ga pernah denger mang? hahahahahaha..

yang ada adalah.. Terang dunia. Yesus kerkata.. I am the light of the world!

bukan the light doang hahahahahaha..

itu juga bukan sebutan untuk Yesus. tetapi kesaksian Yesus terhadap dirinya sendiri.


8:12 Maka Yesus berkata pula kepada orang banyak, kata-Nya: "Akulah terang dunia; barangsiapa mengikut Aku, ia tidak akan berjalan dalam kegelapan, melainkan ia akan mempunyai terang hidup."

Chapter/spell 125 dari Egyptian Book of the Dead, Osiriris disebut sebagai The Lord of Truth, dan juga sangat mudah untuk dimengerti mengapa dewa dewa Matahari dianggap sebagai THE LIGHT/CAHAYA.

ramayana wrote:

Chapter/spell 125 dari Egyptian Book of the Dead, Osiriris disebut sebagai The Lord of Truth, dan juga sangat mudah untuk dimengerti mengapa dewa dewa Matahari dianggap sebagai THE LIGHT/CAHAYA.

osiris atau horus?? hahahahaha

12) Krishna said: "I am the light in the sun and the moon, far, far beyond the darkness. I am the brilliancy in flame, the radiance in all that's radiant, and the light of lights."34

http://www.harekrsna.de/christ-chrishna.htm

jadi Yesus ini dari kresna atau dewa matahari??

atau kresna juga dewa matahari??? hahahahahaha..

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:
Berikut ini adalah kompilasi dari julukan yang diambil dari "Egyptian Book of the Dead" yang diterapkan ke bermacam macam dewa dewa termasuk Osiris, Isis,Horus,Re,Anubis,Thoth dan Seb :

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80 (Murdock, "Christ In Egypt" page 329-330)

ramayana wrote:mang.. ente masih punya otak buat mikir kan?

buku ente sendiri yang bilang julukan the truth hanya ke osiris! ga di tulis horus atau yg lain! ente mau bantah buku ente sendiri? hahahahaha..

mengenai krisna.. ane ini kasih contoh mengenai terang. atau the light. malah ente bawa lagi kisah palsu krisna.

udah jelas kalau krisne menurut ente lahir dari devaki. kok bisa jadi dewa matahari? hahahahaha

emang matahari lahir dari manusia ya? hebat!

mbok ente ini bawa sumber hindu yg bilang kalau krisna ini dewa matahari.. kan afdol hahahahaha..

horus ga terbukti, mau di bawa ke krisna ya hahahaha..

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:
Berikut ini adalah kompilasi dari julukan yang diambil dari "Egyptian Book of the Dead" yang diterapkan ke bermacam macam dewa dewa termasuk Osiris, Isis,Horus,Re,Anubis,Thoth dan Seb :

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80 (Murdock, "Christ In Egypt" page 329-330)

orang kalau punya otak kan mikirnya gini..

ini adalah kompilasi atau semua julukan dewa dewa dari osiris, horus dll!!
jadi semua julukan dewa dewa itu dikumpulkan! jadi tidak setiap dewa itu julukannya adalah semua yg di tulis itu!! tapi ini adalah kumpulan julukan semua dewa! ente apa ga tau artinya kompilasi?? hahahahaha

jadi bukan merupakan julukan bagi semua dewa itu!!
udah jelas di buku ente kalau julukan the truth adalah buat osiris! bukan yang lain!

bisa mikir mang?

ramayana wrote:kalau bawa quran kenapa di delete momod? malu jadi dewa matahari menurut mang odoy? hahahahaha..

mang odoy wrote:

ramayana wrote:mang.. ente masih punya otak buat mikir kan?

buku ente sendiri yang bilang julukan the truth hanya ke osiris! ga di tulis horus atau yg lain! ente mau bantah buku ente sendiri? hahahahaha..

Horus,,,, The Son of Osiris..... bagaikan Babeh sama si Otong.... "Aku dan Bapa adalah Satu", kalimat tersebut sebagaimana diimani oleh kalian wahai Pagan Kristen.... bahwa Yesus ya Bapa juga,....
Begitupun dalam masalah Horus Osiris..... julukan THE TRUTH dan THE LIGHT..... ya punya Osiris, juga Horus....
Mangkanya baca dong kalo dikasih data tuh.....

mengenai krisna.. ane ini kasih contoh mengenai terang. atau the light. malah ente bawa lagi kisah palsu krisna.

udah jelas kalau krisne menurut ente lahir dari devaki. kok bisa jadi dewa matahari? hahahahaha

Krisna adalah AVATAR (Inkarnasi) dari Dewa Wisnu... sedangkan Dewa Wisnu sendiri adalah sebagai Dewa Matahari..

http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/deities/vishnu.htm

To the eternal credit of Indian creativity, abstract concepts such as the one above are made intelligible to ordinary mortals like you and me through the invention of various forms which make comprehensible the ultimate, formless reality. Thus the Nirguna Brahmana (Nirguna - without quality) becomes Saguna Brahmana (Saguna - having qualities). This transformed entity is known in Sanskrit as Ishvara.

The entire universe, along with the dynamic processes underlying it, is said to stem from Ishvara. For example, when Ishvara creates the universe, he is called Brahma, when he protects, he is called Vishnu, and when he destroys, he is Shiva. The three together constitute the trinity, which controls the universe and all its functions.

Thus, as exemplified in the above legend, Vishnu is the Preserver, the protector of all humanity. A deity who saves mankind from calamities which result from its own foibles.

Vishnu finds his earliest mention in the Rig Veda, the most ancient book in the world. Here he appears as a solar deity.

The Vishnu of the Rig Veda is a manifestation of light, whose head was, by a trick of the gods, severed from his body. This severed head is believed to have become the sun. Further in the Veda, Vishnu is a friend and associate of Indra, god of rain, thunder, and storm. Together, Vishnu the sun and Indra the rain, take on the demon Vritra, who personifies drought. Indra and Vishnu both are described as Vritrahan or the killer of Vritra. This potent combination forms an awesome ensemble of fertilizing powers.

Dan KRISNA sendiri adala AVATAR atow Inkarnasi dari Dewa Wisnu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_deities

Ten avatars of Vishnu

The most famous of the divine incarnations are Rama, whose life is depicted in the Ramayana, and Krishna, whose life is depicted in the Mahābhārata and the Bhagavata Purana.

The Bhagavad Gita, which contains the spiritual teachings of Krishna, is one of the most widely read scriptures in Hinduism.

emang matahari lahir dari manusia ya? hebat!

Lhaaa...???? komen kok kaya kentut ...????

mbok ente ini bawa sumber hindu yg bilang kalau krisna ini dewa matahari.. kan afdol hahahahaha..

Mangkanya jangan banyak ketawa....kaya orang gila.....jadi manusia itu harus banyak baca....jangan bisanya cuman ke gereja, dengerin pendeta gila lagi ngibul...

horus ga terbukti, mau di bawa ke krisna ya hahahaha..

ketawa aja...biar tambah gila....

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:
Berikut ini adalah kompilasi dari julukan yang diambil dari "Egyptian Book of the Dead" yang diterapkan ke bermacam macam dewa dewa termasuk Osiris, Isis,Horus,Re,Anubis,Thoth dan Seb :

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80 (Murdock, "Christ In Egypt" page 329-330)

orang kalau punya otak kan mikirnya gini..

ini adalah kompilasi atau semua julukan dewa dewa dari osiris, horus dll!!
jadi semua julukan dewa dewa itu dikumpulkan! jadi tidak setiap dewa itu julukannya adalah semua yg di tulis itu!! tapi ini adalah kumpulan julukan semua dewa! ente apa ga tau artinya kompilasi?? hahahahaha

HORUS adalah INKARNASI dari OSIRIS..

KRISNA adalah INKARNASI dari WISNU....


YESUS...adalah INKARNASI dari BABEH..

Teori teori diatas...adalah sama GILA nya.....

jadi bukan merupakan julukan bagi semua dewa itu!!
udah jelas di buku ente kalau julukan the truth adalah buat osiris! bukan yang lain!

bisa mikir mang?

dodol.... yang namanya INKARNASI.... ya itu itu juga.... dari mulai Dewa RA.. sebagai Yang tertinggi dalam jajaran Parlemen Ketuhanan Mesiru Kuno...sampe ke si HORUS....ya itu itu juga...cuman beda generasi...

Mangkanya banyak baca.......jangan cuman ke gereja....dengerin Pendeta gila..... akhirnya malah kebanyakan ketawa...kaya orang gila....

Begitupun dalam masalah Horus Osiris..... julukan THE TRUTH dan THE LIGHT..... ya punya Osiris, juga Horus....
Mangkanya baca dong kalo dikasih data tuh.....

In Zoroastrianism

In the Vedas, Surya is frequently referred to as "the eye of Mitra, Varuna, and Agni" (RV 1.115.1, RV 6.51.1, RV 7.63.1, WYV 4.35, WYV 7.42, WYV 13.46, AV 13.2.35). This bears striking similarities to Zoroastrian scriptures, where the Sun is described as "the eye of Ahura Mazda".

Though such solar aspects have been associated with Vishnu by tradition as well as modern-scholarship,[citation needed] he was not just the representation of the sun, as he moves both vertically and horizontally.

Vaishnavism sees Vishnu as the Supreme God,[5]and venerates him as the Supreme Being. Smarta followers of Adi Shankara, among others, venerate Vishnu as just one of the five primary forms of God, namely Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Surya and Ganesha; who are all seen as equal reflections of the one Brahman, rather than as distinct beings

HORUS adalah INKARNASI dari OSIRIS..

ramayana wrote:

mang odoy wrote:

ramayana wrote:mang.. ente masih punya otak buat mikir kan?

buku ente sendiri yang bilang julukan the truth hanya ke osiris! ga di tulis horus atau yg lain! ente mau bantah buku ente sendiri? hahahahaha..

Horus,,,, The Son of Osiris..... bagaikan Babeh sama si Otong.... "Aku dan Bapa adalah Satu", kalimat tersebut sebagaimana diimani oleh kalian wahai Pagan Kristen.... bahwa Yesus ya Bapa juga,....
Begitupun dalam masalah Horus Osiris..... julukan THE TRUTH dan THE LIGHT..... ya punya Osiris, juga Horus....
Mangkanya baca dong kalo dikasih data tuh.....

mengenai krisna.. ane ini kasih contoh mengenai terang. atau the light. malah ente bawa lagi kisah palsu krisna.

udah jelas kalau krisne menurut ente lahir dari devaki. kok bisa jadi dewa matahari? hahahahaha

Krisna adalah AVATAR (Inkarnasi) dari Dewa Wisnu... sedangkan Dewa Wisnu sendiri adalah sebagai Dewa Matahari..

http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/deities/vishnu.htm

To the eternal credit of Indian creativity, abstract concepts such as the one above are made intelligible to ordinary mortals like you and me through the invention of various forms which make comprehensible the ultimate, formless reality. Thus the Nirguna Brahmana (Nirguna - without quality) becomes Saguna Brahmana (Saguna - having qualities). This transformed entity is known in Sanskrit as Ishvara.

The entire universe, along with the dynamic processes underlying it, is said to stem from Ishvara. For example, when Ishvara creates the universe, he is called Brahma, when he protects, he is called Vishnu, and when he destroys, he is Shiva. The three together constitute the trinity, which controls the universe and all its functions.

Thus, as exemplified in the above legend, Vishnu is the Preserver, the protector of all humanity. A deity who saves mankind from calamities which result from its own foibles.

Vishnu finds his earliest mention in the Rig Veda, the most ancient book in the world. Here he appears as a solar deity.

The Vishnu of the Rig Veda is a manifestation of light, whose head was, by a trick of the gods, severed from his body. This severed head is believed to have become the sun. Further in the Veda, Vishnu is a friend and associate of Indra, god of rain, thunder, and storm. Together, Vishnu the sun and Indra the rain, take on the demon Vritra, who personifies drought. Indra and Vishnu both are described as Vritrahan or the killer of Vritra. This potent combination forms an awesome ensemble of fertilizing powers.

Dan KRISNA sendiri adala AVATAR atow Inkarnasi dari Dewa Wisnu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_deities

Ten avatars of Vishnu

The most famous of the divine incarnations are Rama, whose life is depicted in the Ramayana, and Krishna, whose life is depicted in the Mahābhārata and the Bhagavata Purana.

The Bhagavad Gita, which contains the spiritual teachings of Krishna, is one of the most widely read scriptures in Hinduism.

emang matahari lahir dari manusia ya? hebat!

Lhaaa...???? komen kok kaya kentut ...????

mbok ente ini bawa sumber hindu yg bilang kalau krisna ini dewa matahari.. kan afdol hahahahaha..

Mangkanya jangan banyak ketawa....kaya orang gila.....jadi manusia itu harus banyak baca....jangan bisanya cuman ke gereja, dengerin pendeta gila lagi ngibul...

horus ga terbukti, mau di bawa ke krisna ya hahahaha..

ketawa aja...biar tambah gila....

Following is a compilation of epithets taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, as applied to various deities, including Osiris, Isis, Horus, Re, Anubis, Thoth and Seb:
Berikut ini adalah kompilasi dari julukan yang diambil dari "Egyptian Book of the Dead" yang diterapkan ke bermacam macam dewa dewa termasuk Osiris, Isis,Horus,Re,Anubis,Thoth dan Seb :

Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord of Truth, Savior, the Divine, All-Powerful, the Unknowable, Great God, Lord of All, Inviolate God, God of Justice, Lord of Justice, Lord of Right, Lord of Prayer... Son of the Great One...Lord of Light... The Giver of Light, Lord of the Horizon, Lord of Daylight, Lord of the Sunbeams, Soul of his father, Lord of Years, Lord of the Great Mansion...80 (Murdock, "Christ In Egypt" page 329-330)

orang kalau punya otak kan mikirnya gini..

ini adalah kompilasi atau semua julukan dewa dewa dari osiris, horus dll!!
jadi semua julukan dewa dewa itu dikumpulkan! jadi tidak setiap dewa itu julukannya adalah semua yg di tulis itu!! tapi ini adalah kumpulan julukan semua dewa! ente apa ga tau artinya kompilasi?? hahahahaha

HORUS adalah INKARNASI dari OSIRIS..

KRISNA adalah INKARNASI dari WISNU....


YESUS...adalah INKARNASI dari BABEH..

Teori teori diatas...adalah sama GILA nya.....

jadi bukan merupakan julukan bagi semua dewa itu!!
udah jelas di buku ente kalau julukan the truth adalah buat osiris! bukan yang lain!

bisa mikir mang?

dodol.... yang namanya INKARNASI.... ya itu itu juga.... dari mulai Dewa RA.. sebagai Yang tertinggi dalam jajaran Parlemen Ketuhanan Mesiru Kuno...sampe ke si HORUS....ya itu itu juga...cuman beda generasi...

Mangkanya banyak baca.......jangan cuman ke gereja....dengerin Pendeta gila..... akhirnya malah kebanyakan ketawa...kaya orang gila....

ini beneran mang??? dasarnya apa??

mang odoy wrote:
Begitupun dalam masalah Horus Osiris..... julukan THE TRUTH dan THE LIGHT..... ya punya Osiris, juga Horus....
Mangkanya baca dong kalo dikasih data tuh.....

ente sendiri yg kasih link! dan udah jelas kepada diapa the truth dan light di tujukan hahahaha..

di quran juga Alloh adalah cahaya juga tuh mang..

mengenai kresna.. ente ini bicara kresna atau wisnu??

tidak pernah kresna di asosiasikan dengan matahari!! sekaranng ente pakai wisnu!

ok..

In Zoroastrianism

In the Vedas, Surya is frequently referred to as "the eye of Mitra, Varuna, and Agni" (RV 1.115.1, RV 6.51.1, RV 7.63.1, WYV 4.35, WYV 7.42, WYV 13.46, AV 13.2.35). This bears striking similarities to Zoroastrian scriptures, where the Sun is described as "the eye of Ahura Mazda".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya

wisnu diasosiasikan dengan matahari bukan dalam pandangan resmi hindu! krn hindu punya dewa surya! yang merupakan asosiasi dari matahari!

Though such solar aspects have been associated with Vishnu by tradition as well as modern-scholarship,[citation needed] he was not just the representation of the sun, as he moves both vertically and horizontally.

Vaishnavism sees Vishnu as the Supreme God,[5]and venerates him as the Supreme Being. Smarta followers of Adi Shankara, among others, venerate Vishnu as just one of the five primary forms of God, namely Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Surya and Ganesha; who are all seen as equal reflections of the one Brahman, rather than as distinct beings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu

menurut ente mang.. darimana asal penyebutan matahari dengan kata surya ini?? dari dewa wisnu? hahahahahahahaha!!

dan ditambah kebegoan ini..

HORUS adalah INKARNASI dari OSIRIS..

buktikan mang!! hahahahahahahahahahahaha

ha ha ha...nyantei aja..baru pemanasan.... urusan PAGAN MESIR aja belon kelar...postingan saya yang seabreg kagak sanggup anda bantah.... sekarang malah muter muter di masalah THE LIGHT and THE TRUTH ....

Hal ini berlaku juga dalam KEIMANAN KRISTEN..... dimana Yesus telah MEWARISI TAHKTA KERAJAAN SORGA dari Bapaknya....

Hal ini berlaku juga dalam KEIMANAN KRISTEN..... dimana Yesus telah MEWARISI TAHKTA KERAJAAN SORGA dari Bapaknya....

ramayana wrote:hoi mang!!! jangan koar koar di luar!

ayo kemari hehehehehe..

Hal ini berlaku juga dalam KEIMANAN KRISTEN..... dimana Yesus telah MEWARISI TAHKTA KERAJAAN SORGA dari Bapaknya....

tolong beri ayat atas tuduhan ente!!