Para tokoh dunia KAGUM pada nabi Muhammad SAW

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mystery wrote:

cain wrote:

mystery wrote:@atas

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dah balik lagi ke Topik!

Mulai kalap lagi dia  

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mystery wrote:yowes, jadi dah kelihatan kan siapa MISTER KAIN itu?

   

cain wrote:

Ibnu Sabil wrote:

Saya meramalkan bahwa tidak lama lagi akan dapat dipersatukan umat manusia yang berakal dan berpendidikan tinggi untuk menjunjung satu kesatuan kekuasaan yang berdasarkan prinsip–prinsip ajaran Islam, karena hanya al- Qur’an satu-satunya sumber kebenaran yang mampu memimpin manusia kepada kebahagiaan.”

"Agama-agama itu selalu didasarkan pada hal-hal yang ajaib, seperti halnya Trinitas yang sulit dipahami. Yesus memanggil dirinya sebagai anak Tuhan, padahal ia keturunan Daud. Saya lebih meyakini agama yang dibawa oleh Muhammad. Islam terhindar jauh dari kelucuan-kelucuan ritual seperti yang terdapat di dalam agama kita (Kristen). Bangsa Turki juga menyebut kita sebagai orang-orang penyembah berhala dan dewa.  Dengan penuh kepastian, saya telah mengatakan kepada Anda semua pada kesempatan yang berbeda, dan saya harus memperjelas lagi kepada Anda di setiap ceramah bahwa saya adalah seorang muslim, dan saya memuliakan Nabi Muhammad serta mencintai orang-orang Islam.” (Napoleon Bonaparte-1814)

Sebuah pernyataan jujur dari orang yang berhati dan jujur dalam menyikapi sepak terjang seseorang..

Karena menjadi mualaf maka di bilang jujur??  

http://books.google.co.id/books?id=qwQKAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=%22It+has+been+alleged+that+Bonaparte,+when+in+Egypt,+took+part+in+the+r%20%20eligious+ceremonies+and+worship+of+the+Mussulmans%22&source=bl&ots=Y8Js6IBzvg&sig=c90t-iDTMhRXrr6XMSWXRelWb-s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FbZBUer0JYfxrQev2YHADQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

It has been alleged that Bonaparte, when in Egypt, took part in the religious ceremonies and worship of the Mussulmans; but it cannot be said that he celebrated the festivals of the overflowing of the Nile and the anniversary of the Prophet. The Turks invited him to these merely as a spectator; and the presence of their new master was gratifying to the people. But he never committed the folly of ordering any solemnity. He neither learned nor repeated any prayer of the Koran, as many persons have asserted; neither did he advocate fatalism polygamy, or any other doctrine of the Koran. Bonaparte employed himself better than in discussing with the Imans the theology of the children of Ismael. The ceremonies, at which policy induced him to be present, were to him, and to all who accompanied him, mere matters of curiosity. He never set foot in a mosque; and only on one occasion, which I shall hereafter mention, dressed himself in the Mahometan costume. He attended the festivals to which the green turbans invited him. His religious tolerance was the natural consequence of his philosophic spirit.

Doubtless Bonaparte did, as he was bound to do, show respect for the religion of the country; and he found it necessary to act more like a Mussulman than a Catholic. A wise conqueror supports his triumphs by protecting and even elevating the religion of the conquered people. Bonaparte's principle was, as he himself has often told me, to look upon religions as the work of men, but to respect them everywhere as a powerful engine of government. However, I will not go so far as to say that he would not have changed his religion had the conquest of the East been the price of that change. All that he said about Mahomet, Islamism, and the Koran to the great men of the country he laughed at himself. He enjoyed the gratification of having all his fine sayings on the subject of religion translated into Arabic poetry, and repeated from mouth to mouth. This of course tended to conciliate the people.[/b]

I confess that Bonaparte frequently conversed with the chiefs of the Mussulman religion on the subject of his conversion; but only for the sake of amusement. The priests of the Koran, who would probably have been delighted to convert us, offered us the most ample concessions. But these conversations were merely started by way of entertainment, and never could have warranted a supposition of their leading to any serious result. If Bonaparte spoke as a Mussulman, it was merely in his character of a military and political chief in a Mussulman country. To do so was essential to his success, to the safety of his army, and, consequently, to his glory. In every country he would have drawn up proclamations and delivered addresses on the same principle. In India he would have been for Ali, at Thibet for the Dalai-lama, and in China for Confucius.


Source: Memoirs of Napoleon Bonaparte by Louis Antoine Fauvelet de Bourrienne edited by R.W. Phipps. Vol. 1 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1889) p. 168-169.

Sumber loe dari mana bil?? Eramuslim??  

Baca yang merah ya, "JUJUR" sekali tuh si Napoleon

kain wrote: "Bonaparte employed himself better than in discussing with the Imans the theology of the children of Ismael. The ceremonies, at which policy induced him to be present, were to him, and to all who accompanied him, mere matters of curiosity"

kain wrote:"His religious tolerance was the natural consequence of his philosophic spirit

mystery wrote:yowes, jadi dah kelihatan kan siapa MISTER KAIN itu?

   

Ibnu Sabil wrote:

cain wrote:

Ibnu Sabil wrote:

Saya meramalkan bahwa tidak lama lagi akan dapat dipersatukan umat manusia yang berakal dan berpendidikan tinggi untuk menjunjung satu kesatuan kekuasaan yang berdasarkan prinsip–prinsip ajaran Islam, karena hanya al- Qur’an satu-satunya sumber kebenaran yang mampu memimpin manusia kepada kebahagiaan.”

"Agama-agama itu selalu didasarkan pada hal-hal yang ajaib, seperti halnya Trinitas yang sulit dipahami. Yesus memanggil dirinya sebagai anak Tuhan, padahal ia keturunan Daud. Saya lebih meyakini agama yang dibawa oleh Muhammad. Islam terhindar jauh dari kelucuan-kelucuan ritual seperti yang terdapat di dalam agama kita (Kristen). Bangsa Turki juga menyebut kita sebagai orang-orang penyembah berhala dan dewa.  Dengan penuh kepastian, saya telah mengatakan kepada Anda semua pada kesempatan yang berbeda, dan saya harus memperjelas lagi kepada Anda di setiap ceramah bahwa saya adalah seorang muslim, dan saya memuliakan Nabi Muhammad serta mencintai orang-orang Islam.” (Napoleon Bonaparte-1814)

Sebuah pernyataan jujur dari orang yang berhati dan jujur dalam menyikapi sepak terjang seseorang..

Karena menjadi mualaf maka di bilang jujur??  

http://books.google.co.id/books?id=qwQKAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=%22It+has+been+alleged+that+Bonaparte,+when+in+Egypt,+took+part+in+the+r%20%20eligious+ceremonies+and+worship+of+the+Mussulmans%22&source=bl&ots=Y8Js6IBzvg&sig=c90t-iDTMhRXrr6XMSWXRelWb-s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FbZBUer0JYfxrQev2YHADQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

It has been alleged that Bonaparte, when in Egypt, took part in the religious ceremonies and worship of the Mussulmans; but it cannot be said that he celebrated the festivals of the overflowing of the Nile and the anniversary of the Prophet. The Turks invited him to these merely as a spectator; and the presence of their new master was gratifying to the people. But he never committed the folly of ordering any solemnity. He neither learned nor repeated any prayer of the Koran, as many persons have asserted; neither did he advocate fatalism polygamy, or any other doctrine of the Koran. Bonaparte employed himself better than in discussing with the Imans the theology of the children of Ismael. The ceremonies, at which policy induced him to be present, were to him, and to all who accompanied him, mere matters of curiosity. He never set foot in a mosque; and only on one occasion, which I shall hereafter mention, dressed himself in the Mahometan costume. He attended the festivals to which the green turbans invited him. His religious tolerance was the natural consequence of his philosophic spirit.

Doubtless Bonaparte did, as he was bound to do, show respect for the religion of the country; and he found it necessary to act more like a Mussulman than a Catholic. A wise conqueror supports his triumphs by protecting and even elevating the religion of the conquered people. Bonaparte's principle was, as he himself has often told me, to look upon religions as the work of men, but to respect them everywhere as a powerful engine of government. However, I will not go so far as to say that he would not have changed his religion had the conquest of the East been the price of that change. All that he said about Mahomet, Islamism, and the Koran to the great men of the country he laughed at himself. He enjoyed the gratification of having all his fine sayings on the subject of religion translated into Arabic poetry, and repeated from mouth to mouth. This of course tended to conciliate the people.[/b]

I confess that Bonaparte frequently conversed with the chiefs of the Mussulman religion on the subject of his conversion; but only for the sake of amusement. The priests of the Koran, who would probably have been delighted to convert us, offered us the most ample concessions. But these conversations were merely started by way of entertainment, and never could have warranted a supposition of their leading to any serious result. If Bonaparte spoke as a Mussulman, it was merely in his character of a military and political chief in a Mussulman country. To do so was essential to his success, to the safety of his army, and, consequently, to his glory. In every country he would have drawn up proclamations and delivered addresses on the same principle. In India he would have been for Ali, at Thibet for the Dalai-lama, and in China for Confucius.


Source: Memoirs of Napoleon Bonaparte by Louis Antoine Fauvelet de Bourrienne edited by R.W. Phipps. Vol. 1 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1889) p. 168-169.

Sumber loe dari mana bil?? Eramuslim??  

Baca yang merah ya, "JUJUR" sekali tuh si Napoleon

Hahahaha.....definisi yang saya masukan dengan berbagai dalih tentunya.....gak usah senang dulu.
Coba kita uji statementmu dulu......
Dibawah ini saya kutip pernyataan artikel anda

kain wrote: "Bonaparte employed himself better than in discussing with the Imans the theology of the children of Ismael. The ceremonies, at which policy induced him to be present, were to him, and to all who accompanied him, mere matters of curiosity"

tambah ini

kain wrote:"His religious tolerance was the natural consequence of his philosophic spirit

Ini adalah sifat elegan seorang napoleon====>toleransi betul?
Pernyataan jenius dari seorang raja francis yang notabene kristen karena sifat alami seseorang yang faham akan agama tentunya akan sangat menghargai keyakinan seseorang walowpun beda ajaran.......didiskusikan adalah lebih baik untuk ditelusuri dimanakah letak kesalahan-kesalahannya. Jadi buat saya anda tidak lebih dari orang mangaku kristen walowpun masih mentah dengan sikap sok tahu jadi kelihatan abal2nya.......belajar lebih bersih lagi OB!

cain wrote:Di mana bumi di pijak disitu langit di junjung BIL, itu yang di gunakan oleh si Napoleon  

Cuman LIPS SERVICE saja kesenengan dah slem0t, pantasan sampai ada yang maksa-maksa Vatikan buat ngeluarin statement "Islam is a religion of peace".

Lebih seneng denger LIPS SERVICE tanpa mau berusaha menciptakan dan menjadikan hal itu kenyataan di lapangan.

cain wrote:

cain wrote: If Bonaparte spoke as a Mussulman, it was merely in his character of a military and political chief in a Mussulman country. To do so was essential to his success, to the safety of his army, and, consequently, to his glory.In every country he would have drawn up proclamations and delivered addresses on the same principle. In India he would have been for Ali, at Thibet for the Dalai-lama, and in China for Confucius.


Source: Memoirs of Napoleon Bonaparte by Louis Antoine Fauvelet de Bourrienne edited by R.W. Phipps. Vol. 1 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1889) p. 168-169.

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Sudah paham loe bil??

Sabil wrote:Pernyataan jenius dari seorang raja francis yang notabene kristen karena sifat alami seseorang yang faham akan agama

Ibnu Sabil wrote:

Sabil wrote:Pernyataan jenius dari seorang raja francis yang notabene kristen karena sifat alami seseorang yang faham akan agama

Kain...adakah pernyataan saya jika napoleon mualaf. Tolong dibaca baik2 ya! Ngawur aja kamu ini.. 

Ibnu Sabil wrote:Napoleon penganut kristen yang taat seperti kutipan artikel saya dibawah ini :
"Moses has revealed the existence of God to his nation. Jesus Christ to the Roman world, Muhammad to the old continent...

“Arabia was idolatrous when, six centuries after Jesus, Muhammad introduced the worship of the God of Abraham, of Ishmael, of Moses, and Jesus. The Ariyans and some other sects had disturbed the tranquility of the east by agitating the question of the nature of the Father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. Muhammad declared that there was none but one God who had no father, no son and that the trinity imported the idea of idolatry...

“I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur'an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness."
Coba kamu lihat yang saya bold yang pertama dan yang kedua.....Bisa kamu maknai isi didalamnya?
Napoleon itu ngerti dengan agamanya bukan? Jadi kalowpun sanggahan kamu mengenai LIPT SERVICE saya kira gak ada pengaruhnya tuh argument kamu..

Selain Napoleon bisa dibaca juga

Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

“If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

“I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."

H.G. Wells

“The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behavior, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it.... Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity."
Silakan......

cain wrote:

Ibnu Sabil wrote:Napoleon penganut kristen yang taat seperti kutipan artikel saya dibawah ini :
"Moses has revealed the existence of God to his nation. Jesus Christ to the Roman world, Muhammad to the old continent...

“Arabia was idolatrous when, six centuries after Jesus, Muhammad introduced the worship of the God of Abraham, of Ishmael, of Moses, and Jesus. The Ariyans and some other sects had disturbed the tranquility of the east by agitating the question of the nature of the Father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. Muhammad declared that there was none but one God who had no father, no son and that the trinity imported the idea of idolatry...

“I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur'an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness."
Coba kamu lihat yang saya bold yang pertama dan yang kedua.....Bisa kamu maknai isi didalamnya?
Napoleon itu ngerti dengan agamanya bukan? Jadi kalowpun sanggahan kamu mengenai LIPT SERVICE saya kira gak ada pengaruhnya tuh argument kamu..

Selain Napoleon bisa dibaca juga

Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

“If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

“I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."

H.G. Wells

“The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behavior, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it.... Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity."
Silakan......

Ga sadar juga dan ga mau ngambil pelajaran dari kasus Napoleon  

Makan tuh Lip Service  

isaku wrote:

kebenaran tidak datang dari banyaknya pujian, kesalahan tidak lahir dari banyaknya cacian

Ibnu Sabil wrote:Kafirun tidak mengerti makna kagum barangkali, tapi ya buat apa diambil hati. Kekaguman itu hanya milik kafir2 intelek dan pintar mengungkap fakta, cuma kafir abal2 bodoh yang selalu ogah-ogahan dan tunggu nasib saja.

EDWARD GIBBON and SIMON OCKLEY speaking on the profession of ISLAM write:


"Saya percaya bahwa Tuhan adalah tunggal dan Muhammad adalah pesuruh-Nya adalah pengakuan kebenaran Islam yang simpel dan seragam. Tuhan tidak pernah dihinakan dengan pujaan-pujaan kemakhlukan; penghormatan terhadap Sang Nabi tidak pernah berubah menjadi pengkultusan berlebihan; dan prinsip-prinsip hidupnya telah memberinya penghormatan dari pengikutnya dalam batas-batas akal dan agama"


(HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRES, London, 1870, p. 54).


"Muhammad tidak lebih dari seorang manusia biasa. Tapi ia adalah manusia dengan tugas mulia untuk menyatukan manusia dalam pengabdian terhadap satu dan hanya satu Tuhan serta untuk mengajarkan hidup yang jujur dan lurus sesuai perintah Tuhan. Dia selalu menggambarkan dirinya sebagai hamba dan pesuruh Tuhan dan demikianlah juga setiap tindakannya."

cain wrote:

isaku wrote:

kebenaran tidak datang dari banyaknya pujian, kesalahan tidak lahir dari banyaknya cacian

Gue amat sangat setuju dengan perkataan ini  

Tumben s****t bisa mengeluarkan ucapan bermakna dalam seperti ini.  

Cuman satu hal slem0t, sudahkah loe pikirkan dengan mendalam hal tersebut sebelum berbicara??

isaku wrote:

cain wrote:

isaku wrote:

kebenaran tidak datang dari banyaknya pujian, kesalahan tidak lahir dari banyaknya cacian

Gue amat sangat setuju dengan perkataan ini  

Tumben s****t bisa mengeluarkan ucapan bermakna dalam seperti ini.  

Cuman satu hal slem0t, sudahkah loe pikirkan dengan mendalam hal tersebut sebelum berbicara??

loe cari semua postingan gw, yg mana menurutmu yg tdk berdasar boleh loe angkat :)
tdk bermaksud macam2, ini buat koreksi gw jg
 

cain wrote:
Gue nanyanya tuh, sudah loe pikirin bener-bener tidak ucapan loe yang gue BOLD??  

Tapi gue kagum kok sama loe karena bisa ngeluarin ucapan bermakna dalam seperti itu  

Cuma ya itu tadi....apakah sudah bener-bener loe pahami ucapan loe itu??  

isaku wrote:

cain wrote:
Gue nanyanya tuh, sudah loe pikirin bener-bener tidak ucapan loe yang gue BOLD??  

Tapi gue kagum kok sama loe karena bisa ngeluarin ucapan bermakna dalam seperti itu  

Cuma ya itu tadi....apakah sudah bener-bener loe pahami ucapan loe itu??  

yg bod... :) emang pas sesuai trit... kagum2an emang tempatnya dsini  
paham lah boss, :) gw sdh arungi ffi 3bulan, murtdinkapirun 1minggu sampai terdampar di LI 1taon... g terlalu ok mungkin cv gw, setidaknya yg paling kotor, paling bersih, paling dodol n paling pinter atau kombinasinya dah gw liat semua, tapi nurani tdk bisa ditipu masbro, dan hidayah hanya milikNya

isaku wrote:
kebenaran tidak datang dari banyaknya pujian, kesalahan tidak lahir dari banyaknya cacian