Mysterious people in bible

koq misteri ?
dan sedikit hal ttg pak Alex dicatat jga dalam kitab sucimu

dan msh mengimani/amini QS 18 : 83 – 98 sbg firman Alloh swt ?
aneh juga

Eeee..ee..Kenapa mendadak pura2 kaget kalau tokoh2 samawi saja banyak yg masih misteri?Faktanya anda masih saja mengimaninya??!

berikan contoh sosok yg misteri dlm kepercayaan samawi

musicman wrote:kalau injil ngga nulis nama2 wanita, yah jangan langsung main klaim begitu donk...kalau nanti dilampirkan pandangan yahudi terhadap injil bisa, sakit hati nanti ..

Menurut badan kolektif hukum agama Yahudi yg bisa disebut keturunan bangsa Yahudi itu yg lahir dari ibu Yahudi asli secara genealogy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F
All Jewish religious movements agree that a person may be a Jew either by birth or through conversion. According to halakha, a Jew by birth must be born to a Jewish mother. Halakha states that the acceptance of the principles and practices of Judaism does not make a person a Jew. But, those born Jewish do not lose that status because they cease to be observant Jews, even if they adopt the practices of another religion.

Tanya jawab dengan rabbi Yahudi pun tidak ada yg berbeda secara esensi.
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/968282/jewish/Why-Is-Jewishness-Passed-Down-Through-the-Mother.htm
Question:
Why is Judaism passed down through the mother? I understand in olden times it was easy to know who your mother was and there was no way of proving fatherhood. But these days we have DNA testing, so why can't someone be Jewish even if only their father is Jewish?

Answer:
The body and its workings are a mirror image of the workings of the soul. The physical world is a parallel of the spiritual world. And so, the direct physical link between mother and child is a reflection of a soul link between them. While the father's soul contributes to the identity of the child's soul, it is the mother's soul that actually defines it. If the mother has a Jewish soul, the child does too.
If the mother is not Jewish but the father is, his Jewish soul will not be extended to the child. There may be a spark of Jewishness there, but if it was not gestated in a Jewish mother, the child will have to go through conversion for their Jewishness to be activated.
Jewishness is passed down by the mother because being Jewish is a spiritual identity, it defines our very being. And our very being we get from our mother, both in body and in soul.

Kalau disebut penyebutan nama / Identitas ibu itu ngga penting, itu cuma pembelaan buta dan tidak melihat fakta. Sehingga Yang paling masuk akal memang Istri Cain memang memiliki identitas / Nama, karena kalau saja mau konsisten bahwa kebiasaan yahudi ini berasal dari sejarah Semit yg tua

Tercatatkah di PL?
masih misteri kenapa ngga tercatat

dicocok2kan dgn penggalan teks isi buku itu untuk membenarkan argumenmu

Cukup bagi saya rabbi yahudi dan halakhah yg menjawab apakah hal tsb dicocok2an ataukah memang itu adalah Hal yg berlaku.

coba anda bawa/buktikan di forum ini tradisi Yahudi yang menulis daftar silsilah lengkap nama ayah + ibu hubungannya dgn tradisi geanology Yahudi

harus di ulang ....emang tidak paham2 jga rupanya, orang selevel moderator

agar argumen saya/anda tidak dianggap debat kusir, tampilkan/buktikan dlm tradisi geanology Yahudi menulis lengkap nama Ibu + Ayah

dlm hal budaya geanology Yahudi anda akan ditertawakan
besar omongannya TANPA BISA MEMBUKTIKAN budaya geanology Yahudi kuno menulis lengkap nama ayah + ibu
clearkan dulu yang pembuktian ini, baru ngomong sono sini

musicman wrote:@Paradise

dlm hal budaya geanology Yahudi anda akan ditertawakan
besar omongannya TANPA BISA MEMBUKTIKAN budaya geanology Yahudi kuno menulis lengkap nama ayah + ibu
clearkan dulu yang pembuktian ini, baru ngomong sono sini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_genealogy
Since Judaism is not only a religious community but an ethnic group that claims descent from common ancestry, there has been significant interest in tracing Jewish descent. To this day there are Jews who trace their descent from the ancient tribe of priests (kohanim) and levites (leviim) of the Jewish Bible and who still receive special recognition in areas such as the Jewish synagogue service.
Due to the importance of Torah learning in the Jewish tradition, genealogical records of rabbis and Hasidic rebbes are carefully recorded and readily available.

Saya rasa untuk membela tradisi yg sudah mengakar dalam keyahudian mereka akan lebih layak mengapresiasi saya dan akan mentertawakan kristen yg mereka bahkan jijik dengan apa yg disembahnya..terlihat mengerti tapi sesungguhnya membiaskan ke khalayak apa yg sudah menjadi tradisi mereka (yahudi)

musicman wrote:.Saya ingin tahu..Siapakah nama istri dari Cain?

Mutiaraa wrote:tuhannya aja misterius apalagi ajarannya, tuhan kok 3

BundoKandung wrote:

Mutiaraa wrote:tuhannya aja misterius apalagi ajarannya, tuhan kok 3

Bagaimana mungkin Mbak Mutiara menyebut diri Islam dan membaca al quran sebagai wahyu Allah bila mbak tidak mengakui bahwa Allah SWT adalah misteri???
Bukankah wahyu justru menjadi "disclosure" dari Allah yang misterius?

mutiiiara wrote:yg tak diketahui itu misterius