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Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ramayana Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:26 pm
First topic message reminder :
ini adalh pertanyaan muslim umumnya.
dasar adalah ayat ini.
12:40 Sebab seperti Yunus tinggal di dalam perut ikan tiga hari tiga malam, demikian juga Anak Manusia akan tinggal di dalam rahim bumi tiga hari tiga malam.
adakah muslim yang bisa membuktikan kalau Yesus tidak "mati" 3 hari 3 malam??
ini adalh pertanyaan muslim umumnya.
dasar adalah ayat ini.
12:40 Sebab seperti Yunus tinggal di dalam perut ikan tiga hari tiga malam, demikian juga Anak Manusia akan tinggal di dalam rahim bumi tiga hari tiga malam.
adakah muslim yang bisa membuktikan kalau Yesus tidak "mati" 3 hari 3 malam??
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:51 pm
berapa malam....?SEGOROWEDI wrote:mang odoy wrote:
Secara data di BIBLE...dan pake STANDAR ITUNGAN A'LA YAHUDI, jelas JEBLOK...apa yang haru daku AKUI...????
3 hari: Jumat, Sabtu dan Minggu
yang jeblok otak-mu..
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:39 am
malam itu kan hari gelap
ada 3 juga
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:45 am
nanya ama anak TK sampe profesor... jumat sabtu minggu tu brapa malam...?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
malam itu kan hari gelap
ada 3 juga
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:51 am
ada 3:
jumat menjelang jam 18.00
sabtu jam 18.00-pagi
minggu jam 18.00-pagi
*pergantian hari jam 18.00
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:18 pm
emang yesus masuk kubur dari hari/pukul brapa dan keluar hari/pukul brapa?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ada 3:
jumat menjelang jam 18.00
sabtu jam 18.00-pagi
minggu jam 18.00-pagi
*pergantian hari jam 18.00
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:28 am
masuk hari jum'at sebelum jam 18.00
keluar minggu dinihari ketika masih gelap
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:07 pm
jumat sore s/d minggu subuh brapa malam?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
masuk hari jum'at sebelum jam 18.00
keluar minggu dinihari ketika masih gelap
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:47 am
ada 3 malam (hari gelap):
- jumat menjelang jam 18.00
- sabtu jam 18.00-pagi
- minggu jam 18.00-pagi
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:29 pm
minggu yesus kan kluar sebelum jam 18.00? kok di itung juga?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ada 3 malam (hari gelap):
- jumat menjelang jam 18.00
- sabtu jam 18.00-pagi
- minggu jam 18.00-pagi
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:49 pm
ingat:
pergantian hari jam 18!
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by janganbilangbilang Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:12 pm
SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ingat:
pergantian hari jam 18!
intinya yesus dan yusuf gak mati...
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:48 pm
trus.....?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ingat:
pergantian hari jam 18!
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by abu hanan Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:07 pm
standar apa yang digunakan untuk 3 hari 3 malam?
internasional 72 jam?
yahudi?
hotel melati atow anggapan?
internasional 72 jam?
yahudi?
hotel melati atow anggapan?
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ramayana Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:32 pm
abu hanan wrote:standar apa yang digunakan untuk 3 hari 3 malam?
internasional 72 jam?
yahudi?
hotel melati atow anggapan?
ini tanda yunus bu.
ente cari deh.. kapan yunus di perut ikan. 72 jam, atau hotel melati? hahahahaha..
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by abu hanan Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:41 pm
kenafa?
tanda yunus 3 hari 3 malam,sayah gunakan 72 jam...artinya penulis kitab kanon menulis prosa bebas tanpa dosen penguji.
tanda yunus 3 hari 3 malam,sayah gunakan 72 jam...artinya penulis kitab kanon menulis prosa bebas tanpa dosen penguji.
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ramayana Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:45 pm
tinggal dikasih ayat 72 jam kan beres bu.. yang ada adalah 3 hari 3 malam. bukan 72 jam heheheabu hanan wrote:kenafa?
tanda yunus 3 hari 3 malam,sayah gunakan 72 jam...artinya penulis kitab kanon menulis prosa bebas tanpa dosen penguji.
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:29 am
ucup wrote:trus.....?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ingat:
pergantian hari jam 18!
- minggu jam 18.00-sebelum pagi itu MALAM
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:09 pm
ga jelas, 3 malamnya mana?SEGOROWEDI wrote:ucup wrote:trus.....?SEGOROWEDI wrote:
ingat:
pergantian hari jam 18!
- minggu jam 18.00-sebelum pagi itu MALAM
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by SEGOROWEDI Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:01 am
3 malamnya (hari gelap) ini:
- jumat menjelang jam 18.00
- sabtu jam 18.00- menjelang pagi
- minggu jam 18.00- menjelang pagi
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ucup Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 am
minggu jam 18.00 s/d pagi...? yesus masih di perut bumi?? ngaco.....SEGOROWEDI wrote:
3 malamnya (hari gelap) ini:
- jumat menjelang jam 18.00
- sabtu jam 18.00- menjelang pagi
- minggu jam 18.00- menjelang pagi
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by abu hanan Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:14 am
berarti NALAR tidak lagi dipakai yah?ramayana wrote:tinggal dikasih ayat 72 jam kan beres bu.. yang ada adalah 3 hari 3 malam. bukan 72 jam heheheabu hanan wrote:kenafa?
tanda yunus 3 hari 3 malam,sayah gunakan 72 jam...artinya penulis kitab kanon menulis prosa bebas tanpa dosen penguji.
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ramayana Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:35 pm
nalar opo manaeh? krn pakai nalar itu mestinya ente tau masalah ini.abu hanan wrote:berarti NALAR tidak lagi dipakai yah?ramayana wrote:tinggal dikasih ayat 72 jam kan beres bu.. yang ada adalah 3 hari 3 malam. bukan 72 jam heheheabu hanan wrote:kenafa?
tanda yunus 3 hari 3 malam,sayah gunakan 72 jam...artinya penulis kitab kanon menulis prosa bebas tanpa dosen penguji.
kalau ga tepat 72 jam(kurang 1 menit misaklnya) berarti ga bisa dikatakan 3 hari 3 malam ya? hahahahahahaha..
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by abu hanan Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:29 am
@ramayana
jam 23.55 apa uda berarti jam 24.00?
kecuali DIANGGAP kan?
kenafa ngeles?
bilang ajah yesus DIANGGAP sembunyi 3 hari 3 malam..beres deh!
jam 23.55 apa uda berarti jam 24.00?
kecuali DIANGGAP kan?
kenafa ngeles?
bilang ajah yesus DIANGGAP sembunyi 3 hari 3 malam..beres deh!
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by mang odoy Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:39 am
halahhhh...angka 3 itu nyata nyata NYONTEK dari CERITA PAGAN MESIR...
baca bukunya di mari..
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf
Buka halaman 33...
Buried for three days:
In the myth, both Osiris and Horus die and are resurrected, with Horus
becoming the risen Osiris. As stated in The Riddle of Resurrection by professor of Old Testament Studies at the University of Lund, Dr. Tryggve N.D. Mettinger:
The death and resurrection of Osiris are the most central features of [the Khoiak/Koiak]festival.
Dr. Mettinger also states:
...Osiris rose to new life in his son, Horus..
The period between Osiris‘s death and resurrection varies, depending on the myth. For example, as ―the Osiris‖/deceased in the Egyptian funeral texts, as well as the nightly sun, he dies and resurrects on a daily basis. The annual death-and-resurrection period, however, is commonly depicted as three days, as related by Rev. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at the University of Göttingen. In an article entitled, ―
The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body,‖ published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, Dr. Bertholet remarks:
According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again
Dr. Jaime A. Ezquerra concurs: ―Three days separated Christ‘s death from his resurrection, reckoning inclusively, as in the case of Osiris.‖
The three-day period and resurrection are recorded by Plutarch (39, 366D-E) as occurring on the 17th, 18th and 19th of the month Athyr (Hathor), until ―Osiris is found.‖101 In the funerary literature (e.g., PT 670/N 348), Osiris is called forth by Horus on the fourth day.
It is useful to reiterate here that Horus and Osiris are often interchangeable and, indeed, in his resurrection Osiris becomes Horus.
The theme of resurrection from the dead and ―raising up‖ in three days is present in the Old Testament as well, at Hosea 6:2:
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.
As Mettinger also says:
The idea of a three-days span of time between death and return, a triduum, seems to be at hand in Hosea 6:2 in a context where the imagery ultimately draws upon Canaanite ideas of resurrection… Apart from Hosea 6:2 one should remember also Jonah 2:1…where Jonah is in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. I understand the belly of the fish as a metaphor for the Netherworld
In this regard, it should also be noted that where the fish‘s belly is the ―netherworld,‖ Jonah would thus be a sun god.104 Logic tells us that the story of Jonah and the Whale could not be ―history‖; hence, it must be mythical, in whole or in part. But what does this patently mythical pericope mean? It is about the sun entering into the ―abyss‖ of the ―Leviathan,‖ i.e., the dark cave or tomb of night. Concerning this myth, Catholic scholar Dr. Botterweck states:
...In a sun myth the sun is swallowed up by the western part of the sea and then rises again. This myth is "historicized and re-neutralized in Jonah, as...Jonah replaces the sun and the 'great fish' plays the role of the sea." On the other hand, the period of time Jonah stayed in the belly of the fish suggests a moon myth, and calls to mind, among other things, Inanna's descent into the underworld...
Yet, Jesus is compared to Jonah at Matthew 12:40, essentially equating him with a solar myth.
Terjemahan akan saya sampaikan di tret duel dengan RAMAYANA SANG JAGOAN...yang sekarang dah mulai HOK CHAYYY.....MOLOHOK BARI NGACAYYYY...
dimari..
https://laskarislam.indonesianforum.net/t5091p50-ramayana-vs-mang-odoy-trinitas-meniru-paganisme
baca bukunya di mari..
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf
Buka halaman 33...
Buried for three days:
In the myth, both Osiris and Horus die and are resurrected, with Horus
becoming the risen Osiris. As stated in The Riddle of Resurrection by professor of Old Testament Studies at the University of Lund, Dr. Tryggve N.D. Mettinger:
The death and resurrection of Osiris are the most central features of [the Khoiak/Koiak]festival.
Dr. Mettinger also states:
...Osiris rose to new life in his son, Horus..
The period between Osiris‘s death and resurrection varies, depending on the myth. For example, as ―the Osiris‖/deceased in the Egyptian funeral texts, as well as the nightly sun, he dies and resurrects on a daily basis. The annual death-and-resurrection period, however, is commonly depicted as three days, as related by Rev. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at the University of Göttingen. In an article entitled, ―
The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body,‖ published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, Dr. Bertholet remarks:
According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again
Dr. Jaime A. Ezquerra concurs: ―Three days separated Christ‘s death from his resurrection, reckoning inclusively, as in the case of Osiris.‖
The three-day period and resurrection are recorded by Plutarch (39, 366D-E) as occurring on the 17th, 18th and 19th of the month Athyr (Hathor), until ―Osiris is found.‖101 In the funerary literature (e.g., PT 670/N 348), Osiris is called forth by Horus on the fourth day.
It is useful to reiterate here that Horus and Osiris are often interchangeable and, indeed, in his resurrection Osiris becomes Horus.
The theme of resurrection from the dead and ―raising up‖ in three days is present in the Old Testament as well, at Hosea 6:2:
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.
As Mettinger also says:
The idea of a three-days span of time between death and return, a triduum, seems to be at hand in Hosea 6:2 in a context where the imagery ultimately draws upon Canaanite ideas of resurrection… Apart from Hosea 6:2 one should remember also Jonah 2:1…where Jonah is in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. I understand the belly of the fish as a metaphor for the Netherworld
In this regard, it should also be noted that where the fish‘s belly is the ―netherworld,‖ Jonah would thus be a sun god.104 Logic tells us that the story of Jonah and the Whale could not be ―history‖; hence, it must be mythical, in whole or in part. But what does this patently mythical pericope mean? It is about the sun entering into the ―abyss‖ of the ―Leviathan,‖ i.e., the dark cave or tomb of night. Concerning this myth, Catholic scholar Dr. Botterweck states:
...In a sun myth the sun is swallowed up by the western part of the sea and then rises again. This myth is "historicized and re-neutralized in Jonah, as...Jonah replaces the sun and the 'great fish' plays the role of the sea." On the other hand, the period of time Jonah stayed in the belly of the fish suggests a moon myth, and calls to mind, among other things, Inanna's descent into the underworld...
Yet, Jesus is compared to Jonah at Matthew 12:40, essentially equating him with a solar myth.
Terjemahan akan saya sampaikan di tret duel dengan RAMAYANA SANG JAGOAN...yang sekarang dah mulai HOK CHAYYY.....MOLOHOK BARI NGACAYYYY...
dimari..
https://laskarislam.indonesianforum.net/t5091p50-ramayana-vs-mang-odoy-trinitas-meniru-paganisme
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Re: Benarkah YESUS seperti YUNUS? 3 hari 3 malam di dalam "rahim bumi"?
by ramayana Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:02 am
@atas.. ada yg ga tau malu hahahahahahaha
kisah palsu dibawa bawa..
kisah palsu dibawa bawa..
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