Quran: cahaya Bulan dan Matahari itu berBEDA

Mutiara wrote:Quran menjelaskan bahwa cahaya Matahari dan Bulan itu berBEDA.

تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجًا وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجًا وَقَمَرًا مُنِيرًا

"Maha Suci Allah yang menjadikan di langit gugusan-gugusan bintang dan Dia menjadikan juga padanya matahari dan bulan yang bercahaya" (QS Al-Furqan: 61)

bulan yg bercahaya, bercahaya ini artinya cahaya itu bisa berupa pantulan atau memendarkan cahayanya sendiri, tapi yg pasti adalah bercahaya, sumber cahayanya bisa dari diri benda itu sendiri atau hasil pantulan dari benda yg menghasilkan cahaya lainnya, jadi tak ada yg salah dlm hal ini, adalah benar bulan bercahaya, baik itu sumber cahayanya dr pantulan sinar matahari atau bersumber dari bulan itu sendiri yg pasti bulan memang bercahaya, tidak disebutkan disitu bahwabulan menghasilkan cahaya, yg ada adalah: bulan bercahaya.

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=25&tid=37060
Mentioning the Might and Power of Allah

Here Allah glorifies Himself and praises the beauty He created in the heavens of Al-Buruj, the giant stars, according to the view of Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Abu Salih, Al-Hasan and Qatadah. This is like the Ayah,

[وَلَقَدْ زَيَّنَّا السَّمَآءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَـبِيحَ]

(And indeed We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps) (67:5). Allah says:

[تَبَارَكَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ فِى السَّمَآءِ بُرُوجاً وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجاً]

(Blessed be He Who has placed in the heaven Al-Buruj, and has placed therein a great lamp,) which is the sun which shines like a lamp, as Allah says:

[وَجَعَلْنَا سِرَاجاً وَهَّاجاً ]

(And We have made (therein) a shining lamp) (78:13).

[وَقَمَراً مُّنِيراً]

(and a moon giving light.) means, shining and illuminated by the light of something else, different from the light of the sun, as Allah says:

[هُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ ضِيَآءً وَالْقَمَرَ نُوراً]

(It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light) (10:5). And Allah tells us that Nuh, peace be upon him, said to his people:

[أَلَمْ تَرَوْاْ كَيْفَ خَلَقَ اللَّهُ سَبْعَ سَمَـوَتٍ طِبَاقاً - وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُوراً وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجاً ]

(See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another And has made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp) (71:15-16). Then Allah says:

[وَهُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ خِلْفَةً]

(And He it is Who has put the night and the day in succession (Khilfatan),) meaning, each one comes after the other, in a never-ending alternation. When one goes the other comes, and vice versa, as Allah says:

[وَسَخَّر لَكُمُ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ دَآئِبَينَ]

(And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses) (14:33).

[يُغْشِى الَّيْلَ النَّهَارَ يَطْلُبُهُ حَثِيثًا]

(He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly) (7:54).

[لاَ الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِى لَهَآ أَن تدْرِكَ القَمَرَ]

(It is not for the sun to overtake the moon) (36:40).

[لِّمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يَذَّكَّرَ أَوْ أَرَادَ شُكُوراً]

(for such who desires to remember or desires to show his gratitude.) means, He has caused them both to follow one another to show the times when His servants should worship Him. So whoever misses an act of worship during the night can make it up during the day, and whoever misses an act of worship during the day can make it up during the night. It was recorded in a Sahih Hadith:

«إِنَّ اللهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِاللَّيْلِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ النَّهَارِ، وَيَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِالنَّهَارِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ اللَّيْل»

(Allah spreads forth His Hand at night for the one who has done evil during the day to repent, and He spreads forth His Hand during the day for the one who has done evil during the night to repent.) Mujahid and Qatadah said: "Khilfatan means different, i.e., because one is dark and the other is light.''

[وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَـنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الاٌّرْضِ هَوْناً وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الجَـهِلُونَ قَالُواْ سَلاَماً - وَالَّذِينَ يِبِيتُونَ لِرَبِّهِمْ سُجَّداً وَقِيَـماً - وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اصْرِفْ عَنَّا عَذَابَ جَهَنَّمَ إِنَّ عَذَابَهَا كَانَ غَرَاماً - إِنَّهَا سَآءَتْ مُسْتَقَرّاً وَمُقَاماً - وَالَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَنفَقُواْ لَمْ يُسْرِفُواْ وَلَمْ يَقْتُرُواْ وَكَانَ بَيْنَ ذَلِكَ قَوَاماً ]

(63. And the servants of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth Hawna, and when the foolish address them they say; "Salama.'') (64. And those who spend the night in worship of their Lord, prostrate and standing.) (65. And those who say: "Our Lord! Avert from us the torment of Hell. Verily, its torment is ever an inseparable, permanent punishment.'') (66. Evil indeed it is as an abode and as a place to rest in.) (67. And those who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor stingy, but are in a just balance between them.)

Hal ini diperjelas dgn QS. Nuh 71:16
Dan Allah menciptakan padanya bulan sebagai cahaya dan menjadikan matahari sebagai pelita? وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُورًا وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجًا (Nuh - 16)
lihat perbedaannya, bulan sebagai cahaya (memantulkan sinar), matahari sebagai pelita (memendarkan sinar).

Mutiara wrote:nah, kelihatan dodolnya, bulan itu memantulkan SEMUA cahaya yang sampai kepadanya, termasuk cahaya bintang-bintang, bukan cuma cahaya matahari SAJA, bulan tak akan memilih-milih cuma akan memantulkan cahaya matahari SAJA.

wkwkwk

Mutiara wrote:yg ngarang tuh elo....

masak cermin milih-milih cuma cahaya lilin yang didekatnya SAJA yang dipantulkan, kalau ada cahaya senter dari kejauhan lantas si cermi ogah memantulkan...

wkwkw pake tuh logika

Mutiara wrote:mana buktinya kalau bulan cuma milih-milih cahaya matahari SAJA yang akan ia pantulkan, padahal ada pula cahaya bintang-bintang lain yang lebih kuar sinarnya dari cahaya matahari sehingga bisa pula sampai ke bulan, lantas bagaimana pula dengan cahaya senter astronot atau benda langit lainnya yang melintas ke bulan sehinga lebih dekat cahayanya ke bulan daripada cahaya mataharike bulan, bagaimana cara bulan menyortirnya...

think.....

Mutiara wrote:Quran menjelaskan bahwa cahaya Matahari dan Bulan itu berBEDA.

تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجًا وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجًا وَقَمَرًا مُنِيرًا

"Maha Suci Allah yang menjadikan di langit gugusan-gugusan bintang dan Dia menjadikan juga padanya matahari dan bulan yang bercahaya" (QS Al-Furqan: 61)

bulan yg bercahaya, bercahaya ini artinya cahaya itu bisa berupa pantulan atau memendarkan cahayanya sendiri, tapi yg pasti adalah bercahaya, sumber cahayanya bisa dari diri benda itu sendiri atau hasil pantulan dari benda yg menghasilkan cahaya lainnya, jadi tak ada yg salah dlm hal ini, adalah benar bulan bercahaya, baik itu sumber cahayanya dr pantulan sinar matahari atau bersumber dari bulan itu sendiri yg pasti bulan memang bercahaya, tidak disebutkan disitu bahwabulan menghasilkan cahaya, yg ada adalah: bulan bercahaya.

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=25&tid=37060
Mentioning the Might and Power of Allah

Here Allah glorifies Himself and praises the beauty He created in the heavens of Al-Buruj, the giant stars, according to the view of Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Abu Salih, Al-Hasan and Qatadah. This is like the Ayah,

[وَلَقَدْ زَيَّنَّا السَّمَآءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَـبِيحَ]

(And indeed We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps) (67:5). Allah says:

[تَبَارَكَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ فِى السَّمَآءِ بُرُوجاً وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجاً]

(Blessed be He Who has placed in the heaven Al-Buruj, and has placed therein a great lamp,) which is the sun which shines like a lamp, as Allah says:

[وَجَعَلْنَا سِرَاجاً وَهَّاجاً ]

(And We have made (therein) a shining lamp) (78:13).

[وَقَمَراً مُّنِيراً]

(and a moon giving light.) means, shining and illuminated by the light of something else, different from the light of the sun, as Allah says:

[هُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ ضِيَآءً وَالْقَمَرَ نُوراً]

(It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light) (10:5). And Allah tells us that Nuh, peace be upon him, said to his people:

[أَلَمْ تَرَوْاْ كَيْفَ خَلَقَ اللَّهُ سَبْعَ سَمَـوَتٍ طِبَاقاً - وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُوراً وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجاً ]

(See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another And has made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp) (71:15-16). Then Allah says:

[وَهُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ خِلْفَةً]

(And He it is Who has put the night and the day in succession (Khilfatan),) meaning, each one comes after the other, in a never-ending alternation. When one goes the other comes, and vice versa, as Allah says:

[وَسَخَّر لَكُمُ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ دَآئِبَينَ]

(And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses) (14:33).

[يُغْشِى الَّيْلَ النَّهَارَ يَطْلُبُهُ حَثِيثًا]

(He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly) (7:54).

[لاَ الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِى لَهَآ أَن تدْرِكَ القَمَرَ]

(It is not for the sun to overtake the moon) (36:40).

[لِّمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يَذَّكَّرَ أَوْ أَرَادَ شُكُوراً]

(for such who desires to remember or desires to show his gratitude.) means, He has caused them both to follow one another to show the times when His servants should worship Him. So whoever misses an act of worship during the night can make it up during the day, and whoever misses an act of worship during the day can make it up during the night. It was recorded in a Sahih Hadith:

«إِنَّ اللهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِاللَّيْلِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ النَّهَارِ، وَيَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِالنَّهَارِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ اللَّيْل»

(Allah spreads forth His Hand at night for the one who has done evil during the day to repent, and He spreads forth His Hand during the day for the one who has done evil during the night to repent.) Mujahid and Qatadah said: "Khilfatan means different, i.e., because one is dark and the other is light.''

[وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَـنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الاٌّرْضِ هَوْناً وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الجَـهِلُونَ قَالُواْ سَلاَماً - وَالَّذِينَ يِبِيتُونَ لِرَبِّهِمْ سُجَّداً وَقِيَـماً - وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اصْرِفْ عَنَّا عَذَابَ جَهَنَّمَ إِنَّ عَذَابَهَا كَانَ غَرَاماً - إِنَّهَا سَآءَتْ مُسْتَقَرّاً وَمُقَاماً - وَالَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَنفَقُواْ لَمْ يُسْرِفُواْ وَلَمْ يَقْتُرُواْ وَكَانَ بَيْنَ ذَلِكَ قَوَاماً ]

(63. And the servants of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth Hawna, and when the foolish address them they say; "Salama.'') (64. And those who spend the night in worship of their Lord, prostrate and standing.) (65. And those who say: "Our Lord! Avert from us the torment of Hell. Verily, its torment is ever an inseparable, permanent punishment.'') (66. Evil indeed it is as an abode and as a place to rest in.) (67. And those who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor stingy, but are in a just balance between them.)

Hal ini diperjelas dgn QS. Nuh 71:16
Dan Allah menciptakan padanya bulan sebagai cahaya dan menjadikan matahari sebagai pelita? وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُورًا وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجًا (Nuh - 16)
lihat perbedaannya, bulan sebagai cahaya (memantulkan sinar), matahari sebagai pelita (memendarkan sinar).

Mutiara wrote:Dari pertanyaan si kafir jaya di trit tentang asal usul Quran,

Bulan bercahaya sendiri?

[10:5] Dia-lah yang menjadikan matahari bersinar dan bulan bercahaya dan ditetapkan-Nya manzilah-manzilah (tempat-tempat) bagi perjalanan bulan itu, supaya kamu mengetahui bilangan tahun dan perhitungan (waktu). Allah tidak menciptakan yang demikian itu melainkan dengan hak. Dia menjelaskan tanda-tanda (kebesaran-Nya) kepada orang-orang yang mengetahui.

Semua orang di dunia maju tahu bahwa bulan tidak punya cahaya sendiri.

maka saya buatkan tritnya supaya tidak makin OOT dia memamerkan kebodohannya berlarut-larut... :)

Jawabannya pun sebenarnya sudah ada di trit tentang Bukti keilmiahan Al quran berikut ini:

Mutiara wrote:Quran menjelaskan bahwa cahaya Matahari dan Bulan itu berBEDA.

تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجًا وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجًا وَقَمَرًا مُنِيرًا

"Maha Suci Allah yang menjadikan di langit gugusan-gugusan bintang dan Dia menjadikan juga padanya matahari dan bulan yang bercahaya" (QS Al-Furqan: 61)

bulan yg bercahaya, bercahaya ini artinya cahaya itu bisa berupa pantulan atau memendarkan cahayanya sendiri, tapi yg pasti adalah bercahaya, sumber cahayanya bisa dari diri benda itu sendiri atau hasil pantulan dari benda yg menghasilkan cahaya lainnya, jadi tak ada yg salah dlm hal ini, adalah benar bulan bercahaya, baik itu sumber cahayanya dr pantulan sinar matahari atau bersumber dari bulan itu sendiri yg pasti bulan memang bercahaya, tidak disebutkan disitu bahwabulan menghasilkan cahaya, yg ada adalah: bulan bercahaya.

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=25&tid=37060
Mentioning the Might and Power of Allah

Here Allah glorifies Himself and praises the beauty He created in the heavens of Al-Buruj, the giant stars, according to the view of Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Abu Salih, Al-Hasan and Qatadah. This is like the Ayah,

[وَلَقَدْ زَيَّنَّا السَّمَآءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَـبِيحَ]

(And indeed We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps) (67:5). Allah says:

[تَبَارَكَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ فِى السَّمَآءِ بُرُوجاً وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا سِرَاجاً]

(Blessed be He Who has placed in the heaven Al-Buruj, and has placed therein a great lamp,) which is the sun which shines like a lamp, as Allah says:

[وَجَعَلْنَا سِرَاجاً وَهَّاجاً ]

(And We have made (therein) a shining lamp) (78:13).

[وَقَمَراً مُّنِيراً]

(and a moon giving light.) means, shining and illuminated by the light of something else, different from the light of the sun, as Allah says:

[هُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ ضِيَآءً وَالْقَمَرَ نُوراً]

(It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light) (10:5). And Allah tells us that Nuh, peace be upon him, said to his people:

[أَلَمْ تَرَوْاْ كَيْفَ خَلَقَ اللَّهُ سَبْعَ سَمَـوَتٍ طِبَاقاً - وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُوراً وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجاً ]

(See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another And has made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp) (71:15-16). Then Allah says:

[وَهُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَ الَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ خِلْفَةً]

(And He it is Who has put the night and the day in succession (Khilfatan),) meaning, each one comes after the other, in a never-ending alternation. When one goes the other comes, and vice versa, as Allah says:

[وَسَخَّر لَكُمُ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ دَآئِبَينَ]

(And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses) (14:33).

[يُغْشِى الَّيْلَ النَّهَارَ يَطْلُبُهُ حَثِيثًا]

(He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly) (7:54).

[لاَ الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِى لَهَآ أَن تدْرِكَ القَمَرَ]

(It is not for the sun to overtake the moon) (36:40).

[لِّمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يَذَّكَّرَ أَوْ أَرَادَ شُكُوراً]

(for such who desires to remember or desires to show his gratitude.) means, He has caused them both to follow one another to show the times when His servants should worship Him. So whoever misses an act of worship during the night can make it up during the day, and whoever misses an act of worship during the day can make it up during the night. It was recorded in a Sahih Hadith:

«إِنَّ اللهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِاللَّيْلِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ النَّهَارِ، وَيَبْسُطُ يَدَهُ بِالنَّهَارِ لِيَتُوبَ مُسِيءُ اللَّيْل»

(Allah spreads forth His Hand at night for the one who has done evil during the day to repent, and He spreads forth His Hand during the day for the one who has done evil during the night to repent.) Mujahid and Qatadah said: "Khilfatan means different, i.e., because one is dark and the other is light.''

[وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَـنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الاٌّرْضِ هَوْناً وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الجَـهِلُونَ قَالُواْ سَلاَماً - وَالَّذِينَ يِبِيتُونَ لِرَبِّهِمْ سُجَّداً وَقِيَـماً - وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اصْرِفْ عَنَّا عَذَابَ جَهَنَّمَ إِنَّ عَذَابَهَا كَانَ غَرَاماً - إِنَّهَا سَآءَتْ مُسْتَقَرّاً وَمُقَاماً - وَالَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَنفَقُواْ لَمْ يُسْرِفُواْ وَلَمْ يَقْتُرُواْ وَكَانَ بَيْنَ ذَلِكَ قَوَاماً ]

(63. And the servants of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth Hawna, and when the foolish address them they say; "Salama.'') (64. And those who spend the night in worship of their Lord, prostrate and standing.) (65. And those who say: "Our Lord! Avert from us the torment of Hell. Verily, its torment is ever an inseparable, permanent punishment.'') (66. Evil indeed it is as an abode and as a place to rest in.) (67. And those who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor stingy, but are in a just balance between them.)

Hal ini diperjelas dgn QS. Nuh 71:16
Dan Allah menciptakan padanya bulan sebagai cahaya dan menjadikan matahari sebagai pelita? وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُورًا وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجًا (Nuh - 16)
lihat perbedaannya, bulan sebagai cahaya (memantulkan sinar), matahari sebagai pelita (memendarkan sinar).

berhubung ada kafir jaya yang masih menanyakan tentang hal ini , maka akan saya buatkan tritnya khusus untuk membahas ini.

aliumar wrote:kata asli dlm bhs arab yg digunakan utk "cahaya" bulan yaitu dari kata "nur".
Betulkah "nur" pengertiannya : sumber cahaya dari luar, bukan dari dirinya sendiri?

di QS 61:8 digunakan istilah ''nuura allahi'' (pakai: nur juga)
Apakah itu berarti sumber cahaya Kebenaran Allah (''cahaya'' Allah), tsb bersumber dari luar Allah? Padahal Allah merupakan sumber kebenaran (sumber ''cahaya'' kebenaran).

Quran semakin didalami semakin kelihatan ke-TIDAK-ilmiahannya.