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Australia : Muslim menolak untuk berdiri menghormati HAKIM.
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/05/australis-muslim-refuses-to-rise-for-judge-yells-at-sargeant-youre-not-a-lady-youre-fing-filth.html
Australia: Muslim refuses to rise for Judge, Yells at Sargeant "You’re not a lady, you’re f…ing filth"
Millions of Muslims come to Western countries with a ready-made model of society and government (sharia) which they believe to be superior to what we have here, and they are working to institute it. A vicious Muslim who violently attacked police during a protest against free speech in Australia said his religious beliefs stopped him for rising for the court -- the standard practice whenever a judge or magistrate enters or leaves.
This is the sharia. My question is, why would anyone who regarded their system of governance (no matter how savage) superior to the country in which they are living -- be allowed to remain? It is treason. They should be thrown out.
In this case, this Muslim was jump-kicking at the (officers') shields and punching the shields. Of course, his defense was the Islamic default position, grievance mongering. Whine and whack, then whine some more.
A protester holds a home made sign during a rally in Sydney's central business district as anger over a film that insults the Prophet Mohammed spread to Australia on Saturday
A protester holds a home made sign during a rally in Sydney's central business district as anger over a film that insults the Prophet Mohammed spread to Australia on Saturday
"Accused rioter Mohammed Issai Issaka berated in court after refusing to stand for Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge" The Daily Telegreaph, May 20, 2013
A MAN accused of rioting during last year's violent Muslim protests has been berated for his "disrespect" after refusing to stand before a magistrate at his court hearing.
Mohammed Issai Issaka, who was charged with riot, assaulting police and resisting arrest over the September incident, this morning said his religious beliefs stopped him for rising for the court - the standard practice whenever a judge or magistrate enters or leaves.
Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge repeatedly demanded Issaka stand for her, telling him she didn’t accept his refusal.
"You can tell me where it is in his religion that it says he cannot stand," she said to Issaka's lawyer, Stephen Hopper.
"I was a magistrate at Bankstown Court for four years and I have never had to deal with such disrespect."
The hearing had to be postponed for nearly half an hour after the prosecution and defence consulted Ms Milledge, with the case eventually continuing after Issaka waited outside the courtroom as everyone stood for the magistrate.
Constable Allan Simon, who helped arrest Issaka during the CBD protests, told the court he first noticed the man take a "boxer stance" in front of a police line, where he was "jerking backwards and forwards" and "hissing" at the officers' dogs.
He said he next saw the accused rioter about 15 minutes later when he was violently lashing out at riot squad police.
"There was like a running jump-kick at the (officers') shields and he was punching the shields," he said.
Constable Simon said three officers brought Issaka to the ground but he continued resisting them and the man kicked him in the knee before he was bundled into a police van.
While in the truck he kept repeating "I have no respect for you guys", the court heard.
Issaka shook his head repeatedly during parts of the constable’s evidence.
Sgt Catherine Sadler said she saw Issaka dragged towards the police van and she heard him yell out: "You’re not a lady, you’re f…ing filth".
"I don’t recall anyone other female officers being there – I took the abuse as being towards me," she said.
Issaka, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, has claimed he only acted in self-defence to being violently restrained during the protests.
He produced a bloodied beanie during his last hearing date in February as proof of the injuries he allegedly suffered in the confrontations with police.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/05/australis-muslim-refuses-to-rise-for-judge-yells-at-sargeant-youre-not-a-lady-youre-fing-filth.html
Australia: Muslim refuses to rise for Judge, Yells at Sargeant "You’re not a lady, you’re f…ing filth"
Millions of Muslims come to Western countries with a ready-made model of society and government (sharia) which they believe to be superior to what we have here, and they are working to institute it. A vicious Muslim who violently attacked police during a protest against free speech in Australia said his religious beliefs stopped him for rising for the court -- the standard practice whenever a judge or magistrate enters or leaves.
This is the sharia. My question is, why would anyone who regarded their system of governance (no matter how savage) superior to the country in which they are living -- be allowed to remain? It is treason. They should be thrown out.
In this case, this Muslim was jump-kicking at the (officers') shields and punching the shields. Of course, his defense was the Islamic default position, grievance mongering. Whine and whack, then whine some more.
A protester holds a home made sign during a rally in Sydney's central business district as anger over a film that insults the Prophet Mohammed spread to Australia on Saturday
A protester holds a home made sign during a rally in Sydney's central business district as anger over a film that insults the Prophet Mohammed spread to Australia on Saturday
"Accused rioter Mohammed Issai Issaka berated in court after refusing to stand for Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge" The Daily Telegreaph, May 20, 2013
A MAN accused of rioting during last year's violent Muslim protests has been berated for his "disrespect" after refusing to stand before a magistrate at his court hearing.
Mohammed Issai Issaka, who was charged with riot, assaulting police and resisting arrest over the September incident, this morning said his religious beliefs stopped him for rising for the court - the standard practice whenever a judge or magistrate enters or leaves.
Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge repeatedly demanded Issaka stand for her, telling him she didn’t accept his refusal.
"You can tell me where it is in his religion that it says he cannot stand," she said to Issaka's lawyer, Stephen Hopper.
"I was a magistrate at Bankstown Court for four years and I have never had to deal with such disrespect."
The hearing had to be postponed for nearly half an hour after the prosecution and defence consulted Ms Milledge, with the case eventually continuing after Issaka waited outside the courtroom as everyone stood for the magistrate.
Constable Allan Simon, who helped arrest Issaka during the CBD protests, told the court he first noticed the man take a "boxer stance" in front of a police line, where he was "jerking backwards and forwards" and "hissing" at the officers' dogs.
He said he next saw the accused rioter about 15 minutes later when he was violently lashing out at riot squad police.
"There was like a running jump-kick at the (officers') shields and he was punching the shields," he said.
Constable Simon said three officers brought Issaka to the ground but he continued resisting them and the man kicked him in the knee before he was bundled into a police van.
While in the truck he kept repeating "I have no respect for you guys", the court heard.
Issaka shook his head repeatedly during parts of the constable’s evidence.
Sgt Catherine Sadler said she saw Issaka dragged towards the police van and she heard him yell out: "You’re not a lady, you’re f…ing filth".
"I don’t recall anyone other female officers being there – I took the abuse as being towards me," she said.
Issaka, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, has claimed he only acted in self-defence to being violently restrained during the protests.
He produced a bloodied beanie during his last hearing date in February as proof of the injuries he allegedly suffered in the confrontations with police.
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Re: Australia : Muslim menolak untuk berdiri menghormati HAKIM.
Ikutan dong ... boleh ga
yang saya bingung
ada jutaan muslim seluruh dunia ... dan satu per satu kayanya mau dibahas sama non-muslim disini ... hihihihihihi
kehabisan bahan ya buat memojokkan Islam .... hati2 blunder
Kasih saya satu statement kalian tentang Islam di negara2 Barat ...
dan jangan kaget kalau ternyata kalian sudah dibutakan (kalau ga boleh bilang dibodoh2i) dengan fakta yang ada disana ....
yang saya bingung
ada jutaan muslim seluruh dunia ... dan satu per satu kayanya mau dibahas sama non-muslim disini ... hihihihihihi
kehabisan bahan ya buat memojokkan Islam .... hati2 blunder
Kasih saya satu statement kalian tentang Islam di negara2 Barat ...
dan jangan kaget kalau ternyata kalian sudah dibutakan (kalau ga boleh bilang dibodoh2i) dengan fakta yang ada disana ....
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Re: Australia : Muslim menolak untuk berdiri menghormati HAKIM.
Patut dibaca, muslim mengkritik dunia islam
Apakah di negara islam atau di negara kafir, muslim selalu bikin onar (gak cuma sekedar bikin anak haaa haaa haaaaaa)
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2799.htm[/mention] wrote:
*Islam Has Been Harmed More By Muslims than By the West
*Islam's Biggest Enemy is the Muslims Themselves
*Who Is Harming The Prophet?
"The ones who harm the Prophet are those who butcher and bomb innocents all over the world, from New York to Madrid, London, Bali, Riyadh and Cairo, Kabul and Baghdad – while invoking Allah and the Prophet under the banner of Islamic jihad...
"Among those who harm the Prophet are the likes of Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, who incites to the murder of Jewish children in their mothers' wombs (e.g. in a 1996 lecture to the Egyptian journalists association) and to suicide operations, as well as those who cause the death of innocent victims by declaring jihad in Iraq in the name of religion and the Prophet.
"The ones who harm the Prophet are those who call on the world to pass a resolution against disparaging religion, while they themselves denigrate other religions in each prayer in the mosques, as well as in their schools and on their satellite channels – and especially [the religion] of Christians and Jews, whom they curse in every prayer. When Muslim countries submitted a draft of this resolution to the U.N. Human Rights Council, the Saudi Shura Council raised objections, since reviling other religions is one of Islam's central precepts.
"The ones who harm the Prophet are the likes of those who issued the fatwa sanctioning the breastfeeding of adults, and asserting that [the drinking of] the Prophet's urine is a source of blessing – or those who allow such fairy tales to be studied in religious schools and colleges... The ones who harm the Prophet are those who teach children in schools, particularly so-called Islamic [schools], to hate Christians on the grounds that it is forbidden to love them...
"The ones who harm the Prophet are those who believe that external attributes such as a beard, a spot on the forehead [attesting to deep genuflections during prayer], a veil, or a cloak are prescribed by Islam, and also those who accuse others of heresy and kill [them] on account [of these external attributes].
"The ones who harm the Prophet are those who believe that woman is [lewd], and that she detracts from [the purity] of prayer just like a dog or a donkey...[2] and those who believe that a woman lacks intelligence and religion, forgetting that [they are talking about] a mother, sister, beloved, daughter, or wife, who is equal to man in every respect.
"The ones who harm the Prophet are people like [Egyptian geologist and Ph.D] Zaghlul Al-Najjar, who claims to have knowledge yet at the same time regards natural disasters such as storms, volcanic eruptions, and floods as divine punishments [for] sinners, and who disparages the New and Old Testaments, believing them to be fabrications – and all this in the name of Islam and the Prophet...
"The ones who harm the Prophet are the rulers of Arab states who have made their countries the last bastions of tyranny and dictatorship in the world, and who demand submission to religious texts to justify their crimes.
"The ones who harm the Prophet do not live in the West – they are among us, the Muslims. [It is the Muslims] who have fashioned an Islamic model that is [inherently] terrorist, hypocritical, life-negating, and sustained by the murder of others in the name of jihad and by attacks on freedom of opinion under the pretext of [defending Islamic] national principles – which are actually nothing but retardation and fossilized prejudice... This is what we – and no one else – have produced."
*Murderous Acts (commited by muslims) Have Destroyed the Image of Islam
Apakah di negara islam atau di negara kafir, muslim selalu bikin onar (gak cuma sekedar bikin anak haaa haaa haaaaaa)
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Re: Australia : Muslim menolak untuk berdiri menghormati HAKIM.
dee-nee, gimana menurutmu tentang jizyah, apakah upeti atau pajak?
Apakah islam adalah perwujudan penjajahan karena islam mengajarkan jizyah?
Baca thread saya diatas.
Apakah islam adalah perwujudan penjajahan karena islam mengajarkan jizyah?
Baca thread saya diatas.
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Re: Australia : Muslim menolak untuk berdiri menghormati HAKIM.
Ya sudah kamu kan PINTAR, butakan mata saja dengan kenyataan hahahaha makan saja tuh 'Kenyataan' buatan muslim hahahadee-nee wrote:Ikutan dong ... boleh ga
yang saya bingung
ada jutaan muslim seluruh dunia ... dan satu per satu kayanya mau dibahas sama non-muslim disini ... hihihihihihi
kehabisan bahan ya buat memojokkan Islam .... hati2 blunder
Kasih saya satu statement kalian tentang Islam di negara2 Barat ...
dan jangan kaget kalau ternyata kalian sudah dibutakan (kalau ga boleh bilang dibodoh2i) dengan fakta yang ada disana ....
sekali muncul koment konyol pula ne 1/4 muslimin
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@Revolt
ya sudah, jawabannya sudah saya dapat...ternyata yg anda sebut sumber itu cuma uneg2 netter F-22.
@Majesty
Lho...lho..lho..
Ngomong apa sih anda ini?
Saya tidak dalam posisi membela si terdakwa, jd plintiran anda ini betul2 Jahat dan konyol untuk menuduh apa yg tidak pernah saya utarakan.
Coba anda tulis, pada apa ada post saya yg membenarkan tindakan melawan pemerintah?
saya hanya ingin tahu tentang Keistimewaan bagi si terdakwa yg disebut Revolt, itu saja...
Ternyata yg beliau sebut keistimewaan itu sumbernya dr uneg2 member F-22
Ya..intimidasi anda cetek volt..
INTIMIDASI?? hahahahaha
guru dan murid sama saja hahaha
ya sudah, jawabannya sudah saya dapat...ternyata yg anda sebut sumber itu cuma uneg2 netter F-22.
@Majesty
koq alasan karena gak dapat tunjangan dari pemerintah jadi pembenaran untuk melawan pemerintah?
Lho...lho..lho..
Ngomong apa sih anda ini?
Saya tidak dalam posisi membela si terdakwa, jd plintiran anda ini betul2 Jahat dan konyol untuk menuduh apa yg tidak pernah saya utarakan.
Coba anda tulis, pada apa ada post saya yg membenarkan tindakan melawan pemerintah?
saya hanya ingin tahu tentang Keistimewaan bagi si terdakwa yg disebut Revolt, itu saja...
Ternyata yg beliau sebut keistimewaan itu sumbernya dr uneg2 member F-22
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dee-nee wrote:Kasih saya satu statement kalian tentang Islam di negara2 Barat ...
dan jangan kaget kalau ternyata kalian sudah dibutakan (kalau ga boleh bilang dibodoh2i) dengan fakta yang ada disana ....
lebih bagus mana:
- seluruh wanita indonesia berpakaian seperti kelelawar a la ninja syariah
- atau colorful sesuai ragam budaya kita?
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SEGOROWEDI wrote:dee-nee wrote:Kasih saya satu statement kalian tentang Islam di negara2 Barat ...
dan jangan kaget kalau ternyata kalian sudah dibutakan (kalau ga boleh bilang dibodoh2i) dengan fakta yang ada disana ....
lebih bagus mana:
- seluruh wanita indonesia berpakaian seperti kelelawar a la ninja syariah
- atau colorful sesuai ragam budaya kita?
Sapa yang nyuruh muslimah diwajibkan pakai baju kelelawar (itu kan faktor budaya) ... liat dong pakaian muslimah di Indonesia ga semua pake baju kelelawar ....
Aturannya kan menutupi aurat, sopan, tidak menunjukkan lekuk tubuh (artinya tidak ketat dan tidak transparan) >>> kalau mau colorful ya colorful aja ...
pun setau saya ... di mesirpun (atau negara2 syariah yang lebih moderat) banyak muslimah tidak harus menutupi semua tubuhnya (yang hanya sisa di mata) dan berwarna hitam >>> semua itu kan tergantung masing2 muslimah memahami syariah itu sendiri ...
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Majesty wrote:dee-nee, gimana menurutmu tentang jizyah, apakah upeti atau pajak?
Apakah islam adalah perwujudan penjajahan karena islam mengajarkan jizyah?
Baca thread saya diatas.
jizyah ada di debat saya dengan F-22 ... masuk situ saja ...
post anda sebelumnya : jangan bawa2 MEMRI lah ... saya ga percaya dengan akurasi info mereka ... apalagi cara mereka memberi kesimpulan ...
Ada sumber lain ga ??
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eh muslimah koplak 1/4 muslimin, suka bener OOT di tread orang. Ajaran gurumu ya??
Buka tread baru sana kamu.
Buka tread baru sana kamu.
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Majesty wrote:
Apakah di negara islam atau di negara kafir, muslim selalu bikin onar (gak cuma sekedar bikin anak haaa haaa haaaaaa)
Bagaimana dengan ini :
Dini : dari sini dulu ya
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/06/fbi-arrests-minnesota-militia-type-for-plotting-localized-terror-attack
FBI arrests Minnesota ‘militia type’ for plotting ‘localized terror attack’
Buford “Bucky” Rogers, 24, was arrested for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon. An Associated Press report said that he had previously been convicted for felony burglary in 2011 and a misdemeanor charge of dangerous handling of a weapon in 2009.
“The FBI believes that a terror attack was disrupted by law enforcement personnel and that the lives of several local residents were potentially saved,” the FBI said in a statement.
A federal affidavit obtained by the AP indicated that Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs and a Romanian AKM assault rifle had been recovered from Buford’s residence at the mobile home park in Montevideo.
Rogers reportedly told authorities that he had fired the assault rifle on at least two occasions at a Granite Falls gun range.
Dini : siapa Buford “Bucky” Rogers ??
http://www.startribune.com/local/206530621.html?refer=y
The Black Snake Militia’s home base is the Rogers family trailer on the north end of town, where the group’s initials are spray-painted on a repurposed Farm Bureau sign and passerby are greeted by a handmade warning about the dangers of government tracking devices.
Dini : silahkan cari source lain tentang Buford Rogers ... intinya dia adalah salah satu anggota kelompok Black Snake Militia ... organisasi yang terus melakukan perlawanan pada pemerintah US >>>> anda tanya siapa yang sering "bikin onar" kan majesty ...
Apa dan siapa Black Snake Militia ??
http://blog.adl.org/tags/black-snake-militia
Rogers was part of the militia movement and purported to run a militia group he called the Black Snake Militia. Through social media Rogers called for others to arm themselves against the government. In a series of Facebook posts on June 15, 2011, Rogers wrote, “together we can fight back they wont take me down without a fight i hope that you wont go down easy eather.”
Dini : Silahkan buka beberapa berita di google tentang bagaimana dan apa yang dilakukan Black Snake Militia termasuk ini
http://aattp.org/tea-party-type-militia-leaders-domestic-terror-plot-thwarted-by-authorities-video/
We’ve reported several instances of domestic terrorist plots by anti-government individuals, as well as a sharp upswing in the formation of so-called “Patriot” groups since President Obama was elected. The deep divide over gun-safety measures since the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary has only intensified these anti-government sentiments.
Dini : site yang saya bawa diatas adalah site tentang perlawanan pada kelompok Tea-Party ... Americans Againts The Tea Party (AATTP). Silahkan buka site ini dan lihat agama apa yang dibawa oleh The Tea Party >>> lalu apa dan siapa The Tea Party ... (yang juga termasuk Black Snake Militia didalamnya)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement >>> disini tidak saya copy paste semua ... saya ambil apa yang ingin saya tunjukkan saja ...
The Tea Party movement is an American political movement that advocates strict adherence to the United States Constitution. The name of the movement is derived from the Boston Tea Party of 1773, an iconic event in American history. Anti-tax protesters in the United States have often referred to the original Boston Tea Party for inspiration.
Organization
The Tea Party movement is not a national political party; polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans and the movement's supporters have tended to endorse Republican candidates. Commentators, including Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport, have suggested that the movement is not a new political group but simply a re-branding of traditional Republican candidates and policies. An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of local Tea Party organizers found 87% saying "dissatisfaction with mainstream Republican Party leaders" was "an important factor in the support the group has received so far".
Dini : underlined >> Banyak dari anggota partai republik yang men-support gerakan The Tea Party ini >>> Bicara soal partai Republik
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_are_the_republicans_called_right_wing_and_democrats_left_wing
Why are the republicans called right wing and democrats left wing?
In 1789, the French National Assembly was created as a parliamentary body to move control of issues, such as taxation, from the king to the citizenry.
Inside the chamber where the National Assembly met, members of the Third Estate sat on the left side and members of the First Estate sat on the right. The Third Estate consisted of revolutionaries, while the First Estate were nobles. Thus, the left wing of the room was more liberal, and the right wing was more conservative.
Dini : Republik adalah kelompok conservative yang sering disebut the right wing .... lalu apa yang dilakukan kelompok kanan ini di Amerika ?? >>> silahkan baca dengan lengkap disini ... saya kasih chart nya saja
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/19/467384/chart-right-wing-extremism-terror-threat-oklahoma-city/?mobile=nc
CHART: 17 Years After Oklahoma City Bombing, Right-Wing Extremism Is Significant Domestic Terror Threat
A look at terrorist incidents since the Oklahoma City bombing, including both successful and disrupted ideologically-motivated attacks, backs up the conclusions of the DHS report:
Dini : Lihat berapa persen yang dilakukan teroris muslim dibandingkan teror kelompok kanan DI NEGARA MEREKA SENDIRI ... Kita pun tau bahwa di amerika media sangat dikuasai pemerintah .... Fox adalah salah satu media yang terkenal mendukung kebijakan Republik
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/07/another-right-wing-extremist-terror-arrest-fox/193941
Another Right-Wing Extremist Terror Arrest; Fox News Not Interested In Assigning Blame
You will likely not be surprised that none of Fox News' primetime hosts mentioned the Rogers arrest last night or the looming threat of right-wing extremist violence. That, despite the fact the shows have dedicated countless programming hours in recent weeks to ginning up fear and angst surrounding the terror attack in Boston on Patriot's Day.
Prompted by the arrest of a Muslim suspect, Fox News has spent weeks demonizing Islam by assigning collective blame, as well as targeting Muslims who travel here to study. But yet another far-right, anti-government plot to possibly kill law enforcement officials? At Fox News, that's not a story that draws much concern, especially not from its primetime talkers.
Dini : sampai sekian dulu ... sudah dapat gambaran bagaimana kalian sudah begitu sering di "kibulin" media-nya Republik ??? ... yang anehnya sebetulnya sudah banyak diketahui juga oleh warga sana ..... dan kalian masih saja hore2 mendukung media seperti itu ..... wawasan memang sangat diperlukan ya disini
Masih banyak info kalau kalian butuh tentang banyaknya teror yang dilakukan garis kanan pada warga kulit hitam, muslim, amerika latin dsb ... dari jaman dulu sampai sekarang ..... dan agama apa yang dibawa Republik ???? KRISTEN .... (saya pernah debat masalah ini dengan MBA >>> netter yang bangga dengan Republik karena tetap tegak menjujung Kristen)
Apa perlu saya tunjukkan lagi bagaimana perkembangan kelompok kanan ini di Eropa ?? agama apa yang mereka bawa ?? ideologi apa yang mereka bawa ?? siapa yang mereka serang ???
makanya saya bilang : hati2 blunder ...
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FYI : semua link yang saya beri diatas adalah link netral ... bukan link2 pesanan model2 Memri, Islam Watch, Wiki-Islam dsb ...
Silahkan memperbaiki letak kaca mata kuda kalian
Silahkan memperbaiki letak kaca mata kuda kalian
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dee-nee wrote:Sapa yang nyuruh muslimah diwajibkan pakai baju kelelawar (itu kan faktor budaya) ... liat dong pakaian muslimah di Indonesia ga semua pake baju kelelawar ....
Aturannya kan menutupi aurat, sopan, tidak menunjukkan lekuk tubuh (artinya tidak ketat dan tidak transparan) >>> kalau mau colorful ya colorful aja ...
pun setau saya ... di mesirpun (atau negara2 syariah yang lebih moderat) banyak muslimah tidak harus menutupi semua tubuhnya (yang hanya sisa di mata) dan berwarna hitam >>> semua itu kan tergantung masing2 muslimah memahami syariah itu sendiri ...
syariah kok dimoderatkan..
mestinya ya ikuti sesuai aslinya, model kelelawar
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SEGOROWEDI wrote:dee-nee wrote:Sapa yang nyuruh muslimah diwajibkan pakai baju kelelawar (itu kan faktor budaya) ... liat dong pakaian muslimah di Indonesia ga semua pake baju kelelawar ....
Aturannya kan menutupi aurat, sopan, tidak menunjukkan lekuk tubuh (artinya tidak ketat dan tidak transparan) >>> kalau mau colorful ya colorful aja ...
pun setau saya ... di mesirpun (atau negara2 syariah yang lebih moderat) banyak muslimah tidak harus menutupi semua tubuhnya (yang hanya sisa di mata) dan berwarna hitam >>> semua itu kan tergantung masing2 muslimah memahami syariah itu sendiri ...
syariah kok dimoderatkan..
mestinya ya ikuti sesuai aslinya, model kelelawar
kata siapa yang model kelelawar itu adalah syariatnya ... dah dibilang itu budaya kok ... punya contohnya ga baju yang dipake Siti Khadijah kaya gimana ??
Ga punya info apa2 tentang Islam kok sok tau ...
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dee-nee wrote:SEGOROWEDI wrote:dee-nee wrote:Sapa yang nyuruh muslimah diwajibkan pakai baju kelelawar (itu kan faktor budaya) ... liat dong pakaian muslimah di Indonesia ga semua pake baju kelelawar ....
Aturannya kan menutupi aurat, sopan, tidak menunjukkan lekuk tubuh (artinya tidak ketat dan tidak transparan) >>> kalau mau colorful ya colorful aja ...
pun setau saya ... di mesirpun (atau negara2 syariah yang lebih moderat) banyak muslimah tidak harus menutupi semua tubuhnya (yang hanya sisa di mata) dan berwarna hitam >>> semua itu kan tergantung masing2 muslimah memahami syariah itu sendiri ...
syariah kok dimoderatkan..
mestinya ya ikuti sesuai aslinya, model kelelawar
kata siapa yang model kelelawar itu adalah syariatnya ... dah dibilang itu budaya kok ... punya contohnya ga baju yang dipake Siti Khadijah kaya gimana ??
Ga punya info apa2 tentang Islam kok sok tau ...
lha kamu menyebut sendiri itu budaya..
artinya sejak turun-temurun mereka berpakaiannya model kelelawar ninja...
seperti itulah baju siti kotijah..
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SEGOROWEDI wrote:dee-nee wrote:SEGOROWEDI wrote:dee-nee wrote:Sapa yang nyuruh muslimah diwajibkan pakai baju kelelawar (itu kan faktor budaya) ... liat dong pakaian muslimah di Indonesia ga semua pake baju kelelawar ....
Aturannya kan menutupi aurat, sopan, tidak menunjukkan lekuk tubuh (artinya tidak ketat dan tidak transparan) >>> kalau mau colorful ya colorful aja ...
pun setau saya ... di mesirpun (atau negara2 syariah yang lebih moderat) banyak muslimah tidak harus menutupi semua tubuhnya (yang hanya sisa di mata) dan berwarna hitam >>> semua itu kan tergantung masing2 muslimah memahami syariah itu sendiri ...
syariah kok dimoderatkan..
mestinya ya ikuti sesuai aslinya, model kelelawar
kata siapa yang model kelelawar itu adalah syariatnya ... dah dibilang itu budaya kok ... punya contohnya ga baju yang dipake Siti Khadijah kaya gimana ??
Ga punya info apa2 tentang Islam kok sok tau ...
lha kamu menyebut sendiri itu budaya..
artinya sejak turun-temurun mereka berpakaiannya model kelelawar ninja...
seperti itulah baju siti kotijah..
ada buktinya ga Siti Khadijah berpakaian seperti itu ??
banyak saya lihat film2 Islam tentang sejarah Islam ... muslimahnya ga pake baju kelelawar kok ...
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trus
kelelawar budaya siapa?
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trus
kelelawar budaya siapa?
Ya ga tau ... kan saya bilang tergantung masing2 manusianya dalam memahami Islam .... manusia2 ini kemudian bisa membangun sebuah budaya ...
Contoh : budaya menggunakan jeans dimulai dari kelompok buruh kapal di Amerika senang pakai bahan seperti ini ... karena kuat dan tidak gampang rusak .... berkaitan dengan fungsi dan jenis bahannya ... cara mereka berpakaian ditiru banyak org ... jadilah sekarang jeans dipakai semua orang ...
Kenapa bukan mas wedi yang sekali2 kasih saya refrensi ... darimana asalnya baju kelelawar itu mulai ada ...
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dee-nee wrote:SEGOROWEDI wrote:
trus
kelelawar budaya siapa?
Ya ga tau ... kan saya bilang tergantung masing2 manusianya dalam memahami Islam .... manusia2 ini kemudian bisa membangun sebuah budaya ...
Kenapa bukan mas wedi yang sekali2 kasih saya refrensi ... darimana asalnya baju kelelawar itu mulai ada ...
tak kasih tahu yaa..
Sahih Bukhari 4, Number 148:
Dikisahkan oleh Aisha: Istri2 nabi biasa pergi ke Al-Manasi, sebuah lapangan terbuka (dekat Baqia di Medina) untuk buang hajat di malam hari. Umar meminta nabi, “Suruh istri2mu mengenakan kerudung.” Tapi rasulullah tidak melakukan itu. Suatu malam saat Isha, Sauda binti Zama, istri nabi keluar untuk buang hajat, dia adalah wanita yang tinggi. Umar melihatnya dan berkata; “Aku tau itu kamu, wahai Sauda!”. Dia (‘Umar) berkata begitu karena dia ingin ada perintah illahi tentang pemakaian Al-Hijab (jilbab bagi wanita). Maka Allah menurunkan ayat pengerudungan. (Al-Hijab; seluruh tubuh ditutupi termasuk mata).
Sahih Bukhari 74, Number 257:
Dikisahkan oleh ‘Aisha: ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab sering berkata kepada Rasul Allah, “Suruhlah istri2mu mengenakan kerudung.” Tapi Sang Rasul tidak melakukan hal itu. Istri2 Nabi biasa buang hajat hanya di waktu malam saja di Al-Manasi.’ Suatu kali, Saodah, anak perempuan Zam’a keluar dan dia adalah wanita yang tinggi. ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab melihatnya dan berkata, “Aku tahu itu kamu, wahai Sauda!” Dia (‘Umar) berkata begitu karena dia ingin ada perintah illahi tentang pemakaian kerudung (hijab bagi wanita). Maka Allah menurunkan ayat pengerudungan. (Al-Hijab; seluruh tubuh ditutupi termasuk mata). (Lihat Hadis nomer 148, volume 1).
Al-Quran 33:59
Hai Nabi katakanlah kepada isteri-isterimu, anak-anak perempuanmu dan isteri2 orang mukmin: “Hendaklah mereka mengulurkan jilbabnya ke seluruh tubuh mereka”. Yang demikian itu supaya mereka lebih mudah untuk dikenal, karena itu mereka tidak diganggu. Dan Allah adalah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang.
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koq jadi oot ke jilbab?
ini thread kan tentang peraturan bagi warga imigran (dalam hal ini muslim imigran) untuk mematuhi peraturan hukum di negara setempat (dalam hal ini aussie)
ini thread kan tentang peraturan bagi warga imigran (dalam hal ini muslim imigran) untuk mematuhi peraturan hukum di negara setempat (dalam hal ini aussie)
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jadi ini mau diterusin ga soal jilbab n hijab nya ??
minta tolong majesty bukain thread baru aja ...
jadi ini mau diterusin ga soal jilbab n hijab nya ??
minta tolong majesty bukain thread baru aja ...
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