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Post by Otak Trailer on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:06 pm

@Mod
Gw is jarang ikut debat with all of you.Gw hanya baca but at least week,forum kalian menjadi debat kusir dengan pembahasan melebar (Out of Topics is very much).Sebagai respek for you,gw copasin deh buat you semua baca.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

Informal Fallacies

Inductive arguments needn’t be as rigorous as deductive arguments in order to be good arguments. Good inductive arguments lend support to their conclusions, but even if their premises are true then that doesn’t establish with 100% certainty that their conclusions are true. Even a good inductive argument with true premises might have a false conclusion; that the argument is a good one and that its premises are true only establishes that its conclusion is probably true.

All inductive arguments, even good ones, are therefore deductively invalid, and so “fallacious” in the strictest sense. The premises of an inductive argument do not, and are not intended to, entail the truth of the argument’s conclusion, and so even the best inductive argument falls short of deductive validity.

Because all inductive arguments are technically invalid, different terminology is needed to distinguish good and bad inductive arguments than is used to distinguish good and bad deductive arguments (else every inductive argument would be given the bad label: “invalid”). The terms most often used to distinguish good and bad inductive arguments are “strong” and “weak”.

An example of a strong inductive argument would be:

(1) Every day to date the law of gravity has held.
Therefore:
(2) The law of gravity will hold tomorrow.

Arguments that fail to meet the standards required of inductive arguments commit fallacies in addition to formal fallacies. It is these “informal fallacies” that are most often described by guides to good thinking, and that are the primary concern of most critical thinking courses and of this site.
Logical and Factual Errors

Arguments consist of premises, inferences, and conclusions. Arguments containing bad inferences, i.e. inferences where the premises don’t give adequate support for the conclusion drawn, can certainly be called fallacious. What is less clear is whether arguments containing false premises but which are otherwise fine should be called fallacious.

If a fallacy is an error of reasoning, then strictly speaking such arguments are not fallacious; their reasoning, their logic, is sound. However, many of the traditional fallacies are of just this kind. It’s therefore best to define fallacy in a way that includes them; this site will therefore use the word fallacy in a broad sense, including both formal and informal fallacies, and both logical and factual errors.
Taxonomy of Fallacies

Once it has been decided what is to count as a logical fallacy, the question remains as to how the various fallacies are to be categorised. The most common classification of fallacies groups fallacies of relevance, of ambiguity, and of presumption.

Arguments that commit fallacies of relevance rely on premises that aren’t relevant to the truth of the conclusion. The various irrelevant appeals are all fallacies of relevance, as are ad hominems.

Arguments that commit fallacies of ambiguity, such as equivocation or the straw man fallacy, manipulate language in misleading ways.

Arguments that commit fallacies of presumption contain false premises, and so fail to establish their conclusion. For example, arguments based on a false dilemma or circular arguments both commit fallacies of presumption.

These categories have to be treated quite loosely. Some fallacies are difficult to place in any category; others belong in two or three. The ‘No True Scotsman’ fallacy, for example, could be classified either as a fallacy of ambiguity (an attempt to switch definitions of “Scotsman”) or as a fallacy of presumption (it begs the question, reinterpreting the evidence to fit its conclusion rather than forming its conclusion on the basis of the evidence).
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Post by Otak Trailer on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:09 pm

and I hope that forum is kembali seperti last month when I came in sebagai debater.

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Post by Penyaran on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:26 am

enak aja elo malah mengkambing hitamkan forum ini usil 

noh, elo mending bawa aja trit ini ke eM Ka aje yg udah debat kusir akut disono selama bertaon2 usil 

ngurus forum sesamanya sendiri aja belum, eh malah ngurusin forum orang laen usil 

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Post by Jagona on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:05 am

@ OT

Hi, OT ........... jangan terlalu melihat ke atas, anda akan tersandung ............. dengan aku aja belum ada yang sampe tuntas ............ lihatlah ke dalam, dah sampe level mana kwlitas diri kita ................ okey

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Post by Moderator 3 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:03 pm

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Saran anda adalah kritik berharga demi kewibawaan forum.
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Post by Ujung Kuku on Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:37 pm

lanjutkan Mod..
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