konsep islam tentang kesetaraan gender dan tafsir Wanita "setengah" Akal

Revolt wrote:Sepertinya sejarah islam perlu direvisi dulu deh

Iya deh ARAB NEGARA KAFIR hahaha

muslim2....

Revolt wrote:Ulama Muslim Mengecam Kekristenan Karena Mengajarkan Kesetaraan Jender

Ulama TV terkejut dengan ajaran mengenai kesetaraan jender

Sebuah acara talk show di stasiun televisi Mesir Al Hafiz, secara parsial menjelaskan mengapa para ulama Islam menolak untuk mendiskusikan ajaran-ajaran Kristen atau Alkitab di sekolah-sekolah yang ada di Mesir – bahkan meskipun Quran sendiri mengajarkan hal itu sebagai hal yang harus dilakukan, baik bagi orang Muslim maupun para pelajar Kristen. Saat mendiskusikan ajaran Kristen mengenai kaum wanita, salah seorang pembicara tamu, seorang sheikh yang mengenakan pakaian tradisional garb, mengatakan bahwa ajaran-ajaran Kristen itu “benar-benar menikam para penguasa Islam.” Sebagai contoh, ia membaca dari sebuah teks yang mengatakan bahwa “Agama Kristen tidak membedakan kaum wanita dengan kaum pria, tetapi justru mengkonfirmasi kesetaraan yang sempurna diantara keduanya: memberikan pembagian hak waris yang sama besarnya, melarang perceraian, dan melarang poligami.”

“Sekarang” kata sheikh tersebut, “Jika anak laki-laki saya mendengar hal seperti ini ketika ia tengah berada di sekolah, maka ia akan pulang ke rumah dan akan berkata pada saya,”Ayah…mengapa engkau punya banyak isteri? Engkau ini tidak adil – berbeda dengan orang-orang Kristen yang penuh dengan keadilan!”

Ia meneruskan dengan mengatakan bahwa ajaran-ajaran seperti itu (ajaran Kristen) sepenuhnya berkontradiksi dengan “agama Nabi” (Muhammad), yang tentu saja memiliki banyak isteri – lebih dari yang ditentukan oleh Quran, yaitu 4 orang isteri – membuat perceraian menjadi hal sederhana bagi kaum pria, dan menetapkan bahwa kaum wanita hanya mewarisi separuh dari warisan yang diterima kaum pria.

Ulama itu memprotes bahwa, berdasarkan ajaran Kristen seperti itu, pria Muslim yang coba menerapkan hak-hak Islami mereka – termasuk poligami, warisan dua kali lebih besar, dan kemudahan dalam bercerai (contoh-contoh terkini termasuk perceraian yang dilakukan hanya lewat SMS) – menjadi sesuatu yang dianggap sebagai “kriminalitas, dan agama Islam yang mengajarkan hal-hal itu akan dianggap sebagai mengajarkan kejahatan kepada mereka.”

Sang ulama menyimpulkan dengan mengatakan bahwa, tidak diijinkan “untuk memproduksi teks-teks yang berkontradiksi dengan Quran, atau dengan praktik-praktik membesarkan anak yang sudah kita jalankan selama satu juta tahun [sebuah bahasa kiasan: Padahal Islam baru ada kurang dari 1400 tahun lalu].
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Kamu lebih percaya para munafik di negeri ini dibanding ulama NEGARA ISLAM??

Dirimu yang menerima dengan bangga sekali ajaran yang kamu imani itulah bukti dari RENDAHNYA KAPASITAS OTAKMU.

Lanjutkan !! Sesuai dengan otakmu sih muslimah hahahaha

Revolt wrote:

abu hanan wrote:

Bantahlah perkataan ulama MESIR tersebut.

nama ulama mesir itu siapah?
acaranyah kapan?
ulama atow seseorang pake jubah tradisional arab?

Memang muslimah HAID SETIAP HARI???

kasian nih anak...ibunyah juga masuk kategori 1/4 otak (versi revolt)..dan ibunya pula dulu merasakan sakit setiap kali menjelang "itu" dan payah menjelang "itu"..gak setiap hari tapi menyakitkan setiap bulan..

(semua link sampah diberikan oleh si "dia" #post 23)

aduh2, itu cuma sindiran bung hahahahaha dipikir sedikit dong hahahahaha

Sejak kapan juga ibu saya jadi MUSLIMAH hahahahaha

Revolt wrote:Gaya bicaramu memang islami sekali bu hahahaha

Silakan bercermin ya hahahaha

oh iya nih tambahan buat muslimah lagi :

silakan di tonton ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38DY1ejpQTE

Kesaksian seorang wanita (muslimah) hanya 1/2 pria(muslimin).

WALAUPUN MISALNYA KAMU SEBENARNYA JAUH LEBIH PINTAR DARI PRIA, TETAP SAJA NILAIMU HANYA 1/2 DARI PRIA DALAM HUKUM ISLAM.

TUNDUKNYA KAMU TERHADAP HUKUM ISLAM TERSEBUT WALAUPUN KAMU SEBENARNYA SANGAT CERDAS DAN PANDAI DARIPADA MUSLIMIN DI SELURUH DUNIA ADALAH BUKTI BAHWA KAMU MEMANG MAHLUK PALING BODOH SEDUNIA, DAN JUGA BUKTI BAHWA UCAPAN NABIMU ITU SUNGGUH BENAR ADANYA.

Bisakah kalian MELOGIKAKAN HAL INI?? Tergantung otak kalian sih hahaha

Revolt wrote:

Revolt wrote:Dini : saya delete karena sudah dibahas

Kamu lebih percaya para munafik di negeri ini dibanding ulama NEGARA ISLAM??

Dirimu yang menerima dengan bangga sekali ajaran yang kamu imani itulah bukti dari RENDAHNYA KAPASITAS OTAKMU.

Lanjutkan !! Sesuai dengan otakmu sih muslimah hahahaha

Revolt wrote:Egypt: Muslim cleric Mohammed Abdullah said women who go to protests "were going there to get raped"
Zaky Ibstar emails this:

There has been much debate about the status of women in Islam. Much of that debate surrounded the mandatory covering of women in rags called “Burqas”. Opponents of the burqa argue the clothing is demeaning and a religious sanctioned symbol of male supremacy. France was the first country to protect Muslim women by legislating a ban on public wearing of the burqa contesting “women are 'effectively under house arrest'. French politicians recognised the imposition placed on Muslim women by the dominating males in the family and acted to protect the "gender equality" and "dignity" of women.

The French position is vindicated when you witness the horrors emerging under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. In a derogatory vile attack on the dignity of women and their status in society, Egyptian Islamic cleric, Mohammed Abdullah, said women who go to protests "were going there to get raped."

That comment sums up perfectly and corroborates the numerous arguments that women are treated as virtual slaves and sexual objects in Islamic teachings.

It is frustrating to witness the ignorance of western Muslim women that reject the latter, their ignorance is a major disservice to Muslim women struggling for equality in Islamic countries. The ignorance also serves to confirm these women know little or nothing about Islamic teachings concerning women.

In Egypt, the women are fed up, they have had enough of the public ridicule by clerics and their abandonment by the Muslim Brotherhood who refuse to enact laws to enshrine quality of the sexes and criminalise sexual attack and rape. The Egyptian women have taken matters into their own hands, “At marches against sexual harassment in Cairo, women have brandished kitchen knives in the air. Stenciled drawings on building walls depict girls fighting off men with swords. Signs threaten to "cut off the hand" of attackers”

Egypt's women brandish knives at sex assault protests USA Today February 14, 2013
One hard-line cleric, Mohammed Abdullah, said women who go to protests "were going there to get raped."

CAIRO (AP) — Egyptian women are growing increasingly angry and militant as they deal with one of the unintended consequences of the Arab Spring: an epidemic of sexual assault that law enforcement has failed to contain.

The backlash, which includes self-defense courses for women and even threats of violent retaliation, is fueled by ultraconservative Islamists who suggest that women invite assault by attending anti-government protests where they mix with men.

At marches against sexual harassment in Cairo, women have brandished kitchen knives in the air. Stenciled drawings on building walls depict girls fighting off men with swords. Signs threaten to "cut off the hand" of attackers.

The reaction comes at a particularly heated moment. While the latest wave of demonstrations against President Mohammed Morsi's rule has cooled in recent days, large protests have grown increasingly violent.

More from Zaky:

To understand why a society like Egypt, political groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic clerics are oppressing women in a manner that appears totally acceptable to them, you must visit the teaching of their prophet Mohammed. Below are a sample of Islamic teachings attributed to Mohammed, to the non Muslim they are vulgar, outrageous, demeaning and explain why Islamic men feel they must “control and regulate” everything their women do.

Mohammed's teachings are included in what is called "Hadith." The "Hadith" is a record of Mohammed's words and deeds Next to the Quran, it is the most important text in Islamic law; its teachings are just as binding. The following quotes are from "Sahih Al-Bukhari", (Al Bukhari is accepted as the authentic words of Mohammed).

The purpose in highlighting the following examples is twofold –

Firstly to provide a voice to the voiceless and powerless women subjugated under Islam.

Secondly to empower the non Muslim reader by providing a basic understanding 1600 years of Islamic teachings and their consequence on those society. An understanding of Islam will allow any person to counter the distorted propaganda Muslim advocates use to propagate Islamic teachings. Any person “selling Islam” will always omit to mention any teachings they are fully aware are diametrically opposed to enshrined rights that both genders enjoy in secular societies. The abhorrent incidents of sexual assault and rape since the fall of Mubarak, the justification of rape by Islamic clerics by blaming the women and the blatant inaction and unwillingness of the Muslim brotherhood all speak for its self.

Demo saja kagak boleh, yang demo HALAL bro diperkosa hahaha SETARA sekali deh

Revolt wrote:Saudi Arabia

Islamic Law and Gender Discrimination

Saudi Arabia is a nation literally governed by religious tradition. The holy book of Islam, the Qur'an, is the constitution of the kingdom, and the primary source of reference for legislation and judicial rulings. The oppression of women is intrenched in Saudi religious tradition, and subsequently governance. The mistreatment of women within a society has consequences extending far beyond women themselves. When arrested, homosexuals are often charged with, “behaving like women.” Clearly the oppression of women is a contributing factor to the oppression of other groups.
Sharia Law and the Oppression of Women

No matter their social class, ethnicity, or religious group, Islamic women are treated as property by the males in their lives. Under Sharia Law, also known as Islamic law, many women are killed in the name of “family honor.” In several Islamic countries they believe that the women have a very important role in upholding the family’s reputation. There are many different offenses committed by the women that bring about these “honor killings.” “Marital infidelity, pre-marital sex, flirting, or even failing to serve a meal on time can all be perceived as impugning the family honor.” (Mayell 2) In the Islamic society most marriages are arranged by the fathers and there is an exchange of money that goes along with it. If the women express any desire to choose their own husband they would view this as a punishable offense. This can be viewed as a major act of defiance that damages the honor of the man who negotiated the deal. (Mayell 2)

“The teenage brothers of victims are frequently directed to commit the murder because, as minors, they would be subject to considerably lighter sentencing if there is legal action. Typically, they would serve only three months to a year.” (Mayell 2)

One very important thing that contributes to the continued mistreatment of women in the Islamic culture is the fact that other women in the family go along with and encourage this way of life. It is suggested that violence against women is not a judicial issue, but rather a family issue. (Mayell 1) It is widely stated said that there is nothing to be done about the tradition of “honor killings” due to the fact that the concept of women’s rights is not relevant to the Islamic societies.

SETARA sekali nih ......

Revolt wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIaYGoLhE0

International equal rights for women will cause World War III and is against Sharia - Saudi cleric


Muslim Brotherhood backlash against UN declaration on women rights



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UN's call to end violence against women would lead to disintegration of Muslim society, says Egypt's ruling party

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Patrick Kingsley in Cairo
The Guardian, Friday 15 March 2013 18.49 GMT

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dee-nee wrote:diskusi kecerdasan pada netter yang ga punya kemampuan untuk itu ....
apa gunanya ???

Revolt wrote:

sungokong wrote:
Dan tinggalkanlah sejauh-jauhnya penyeru-penyeru fitnah dan penghina kaum wanita yang menginginkan kerusakan kalian dan ingin menanggalkan rasa malu dari kalian serta memalingkan kalian dari memperoleh kenikmatan surga. Dan janganlah kalian tertipu dengan ungkapan-ungkapan dan olesan bibir-bibir mereka yang mengajak pada kesetaraan gender. Karena sesungguhnya mereka itu adalah orang-orang yang digambarkan oleh Allah SWT dalam firmanNya:
Mereka ingin supaya kamu menjadi kafir sebagaimana mereka telah menjadi kafir, lalu kamu menjadi sama (dengan mereka)… (QS. Al-Nisa':89)

Bener nih kata ulama muslim....jangan tertipu dengan KESETARAAN GENDER MUSLIMAH!! Itu ajaran KAFIR, masuk neraka kamu kalau menuntut kesetaraan gender.

Setuju saya bung dengan tulisan itu ulama

Revolt wrote:
Dasar muslimah 1/4 otak muslimin koplak hahaha

Revolt wrote:

Revolt wrote:

sungokong wrote:
Dan tinggalkanlah sejauh-jauhnya penyeru-penyeru fitnah dan penghina kaum wanita yang menginginkan kerusakan kalian dan ingin menanggalkan rasa malu dari kalian serta memalingkan kalian dari memperoleh kenikmatan surga. Dan janganlah kalian tertipu dengan ungkapan-ungkapan dan olesan bibir-bibir mereka yang mengajak pada kesetaraan gender. Karena sesungguhnya mereka itu adalah orang-orang yang digambarkan oleh Allah SWT dalam firmanNya:
Mereka ingin supaya kamu menjadi kafir sebagaimana mereka telah menjadi kafir, lalu kamu menjadi sama (dengan mereka)… (QS. Al-Nisa':89)

Bener nih kata ulama muslim....jangan tertipu dengan KESETARAAN GENDER MUSLIMAH!! Itu ajaran KAFIR, masuk neraka kamu kalau menuntut kesetaraan gender.

Setuju saya bung dengan tulisan itu ulama

Dasar muslimah 1/4 otak muslimin koplak hahaha

musicman wrote:Masih tanpa beban tertawa lebar pula..sama benar dengan ramayana..
sudah salah ambil referensi, masih berani lebar tertawa lepas..

frontline defender wrote:

musicman wrote:Masih tanpa beban tertawa lebar pula..sama benar dengan ramayana..
sudah salah ambil referensi, masih berani lebar tertawa lepas..

jauh lebih mendingan ramayana om, setidak2nya masih ada argumennya!

Revolt wrote:

Revolt wrote:

sungokong wrote:
Dan tinggalkanlah sejauh-jauhnya penyeru-penyeru fitnah dan penghina kaum wanita yang menginginkan kerusakan kalian dan ingin menanggalkan rasa malu dari kalian serta memalingkan kalian dari memperoleh kenikmatan surga. Dan janganlah kalian tertipu dengan ungkapan-ungkapan dan olesan bibir-bibir mereka yang mengajak pada kesetaraan gender. Karena sesungguhnya mereka itu adalah orang-orang yang digambarkan oleh Allah SWT dalam firmanNya:
Mereka ingin supaya kamu menjadi kafir sebagaimana mereka telah menjadi kafir, lalu kamu menjadi sama (dengan mereka)… (QS. Al-Nisa':89)

Bener nih kata ulama muslim....jangan tertipu dengan KESETARAAN GENDER MUSLIMAH!! Itu ajaran KAFIR, masuk neraka kamu kalau menuntut kesetaraan gender.

Setuju saya bung dengan tulisan itu ulama

Dasar muslimah 1/4 otak muslimin koplak hahaha

Revolt wrote:
Para penggembira mulai muncul....

yang diatas itu SAMPAH juga ya? hahaha

.............Tapi terserah kalian saja deh..........tergantung otak kalian bukan ??

isaku wrote:

ya gembiralah... jarang2 ada yg menghibur gini...

bagaimanapun 1/4otak jauh lebih baik daripada g punya otak